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To: allendale

Trump, whatever one thinks of his true relationship with Conservatism, or his elegance of speech, is the only man to have been running for President who is capable and possibly willing to do what is necessary to bring America back from the abyss. I think there is only a small chance he will do those things that must be done but no one else among those who ran or might have run is either capable or understands.


8 posted on 06/06/2017 4:54:22 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Again, I say, where would we have been with McCain, Romney, Jeb, Marco, Ted, or any of the others who ran last cycle? Nowhere...Trump certainly isn’t perfect, but he’s got the moxie to call BS when it needs to be called and he’s looking out for America. Even if all he does is stop the bleeding, with a one or two more SCOTUS picks, protecting the borders, getting us and keeping us out of trade and other deals that have no benefit to the U.S., and protecting our 2A right...it’s a huge victory compared to where we would have been with Hillary.


43 posted on 06/06/2017 5:56:08 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: arthurus
Well stated, arthurus.

I consider myself to be an Almost-Never-Trump.

However, I voted for Trump because he was the most “Conservative” candidate who had some possibility of being elected president.

No one else on the GOP national ticket had any chance of beating Hillary.

In my opinion, Trump has never been a Conservative, and at least one third of his top Cabinet secretaries and top advisers are center-left RINOS who never publicly challenge the Democratic Party.

On the other hand, Trump has clearly enforced some Conservative policies and has dramatically changed the national and international political conversation.

However, in the long run, democracy always comes down to basic math.

Trump won the 2016 election because of a sharp drop off in Black voters, because new immigrant citizens vote at a very low rate, and because there was a small increase in Conservative white voters.

Maybe Trump can be reelected in 2020.

But, unless massive LEGAL immigration stops immediately - which Trump will never do - electing a Conservative president will be completely impossible by 2024.

64 posted on 06/06/2017 9:27:59 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: arthurus

Trump is hated by the left because they understand him to be a man of action.

The right has so consoled itself with intellectual exercise that most are more offended by a word poorly spoken than the criminal excess perpetrated by the elite. Better to banter niceties than face the depths of absurdity that we meekly accept as government. Trump is so nouveau riche; so bourgeoisie; so utterly crass; so damned American!

Look beyond his fifth grade tweets. Overlook his repetitive repartee. Go as far as to ignore even his accomplished speeches—and he has many. Look at what he has done and add it to what hasn’t been done because Hillary was defeated.

If Trump “fails,” it will be because we have failed the government. Everyone speaks of checks and balances. It’s so easy to blame the President, the Courts, and the Congress when the truth is the people are the ultimate and only check.


79 posted on 06/06/2017 4:15:50 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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