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To: Future Useless Eater

One America news reported on the rich murder tonight. They reported he was alive when found, and talked to them. Dr treating him said he should survive, but was called off and next thing he knew, rich died. OAN had podesta all over this case...and a lot of questions and suspicians.


9 posted on 05/29/2017 12:42:57 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie

If memory serves me correctly...Ron Brown’s plane with ? of passengers crashed into a mountain on a clear day...all were killed except a steward...she was alive and talking coherently however, on the way to the hospital she died. All sorts of theories were written about a bullet hole in Brown’s head reported by a “doctor” to an overheard remark by Brown some weeks before the crash that “...I am not going down with this alone.....death and the Clinton’s seem to follow each other around...anyone ever hear of The Arkansas Mafia?


15 posted on 05/29/2017 1:41:53 AM PDT by yoe
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To: frnewsjunkie

Heads up:

First, full disclosure: My initial training was in trauma surgery at Kings County Hospital in Brooklyn in the early crack cocaine war era. I saw many things most people don’t know about.

Second: I have no doubt that IF Seth Rich was the leaker, the Clinton team would have had him killed without a second thought.

But, and third: A lot of these medical “facts” being bandied about are nonsense, and may very well be deliberate disinformation to make people lose interest in the original, true propositions, which are, “He was the leaker, and his killing was not a robbery (unless he was carrying thumb drives or such).

He was shot in the liver at close range with a high-velocity hollow point projectile (if the source is to be believed). After the entry of the portal vein and the hepatic artery into the liver, they ramify into a sponge-like maze of small blood vessels, most too small to repair as one repairs a torn artery or vein.

It is quite common for a person shot in the liver to “look fine” until they go into shock from hidden blood loss. Small entry wound, no exit wound, looks good, what’s the problem? Once that happens, it’s also quite common for them to die, often on the operating table if they get that far with four blood pumps running and unable to keep up. The more the surgeon cuts, the worse it gets, sometimes.

He was shot at around 0420 and his death certificate says he was pronounced at 0557. Normally, efforts to reverse the cardiac arrest from exsanguination would take no less than 20 minutes, so he died in just a bit more than an hour. This is quite normal, happens every day in Afghanistan and Chicago.

And the “doctor ordered off the case” story, in all its forms except one, is an obvious lie. Since the 1990s, our wise guardians have put rules in place limiting the hours that surgery residents can work, such that they now work shifts of defined length. In my opinion, this has been an incredibly foolish mistake, but YMMV on it and I’m not here to discuss that issue.

The sanctions for programs that violate the “resident hours” rules are severe, as are all the sanctions laid down by our wise guardians. IF the “doctor ordered off the case” was a surgery resident whose shift ended at 0600, and if he were prepping for this big trauma case at 0540, let’s say, he would have been told to take off his gloves, get dressed, and to go home. That, sadly, is also quite normal now.

The part that he was sent away so his chiefs could kill Seth Rich unobserved? No one who has ever worked in a hospital believes that, and for good reason. We are trained to follow orders, and when life hangs in the balance, to do so instantly. But we are also trained not to follow what I always call the “shoot patient at 10 am” order, and how to tell the difference.

There is no administrator, no service chief, no attending, no chief resident, no fourth, third, or second year, no OR director - there is nobody, in any hospital, anywhere in the US, who could have ordered the murder, by direct act or omission, of Seth Rich and had that order carried out.

That sounds like something a Clinton would make up.


32 posted on 05/29/2017 5:49:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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