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Sec of Defense James Mattis Tells Us What Keeps Him Awake at Night
Townhall.com ^ | May 28, 2017 | Jennifer Van Laar

Posted on 05/28/2017 10:57:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

If every American were like this guy, no global craphead would even think of pissing with us. Life would be so much nicer, but not for them!


21 posted on 05/28/2017 6:10:43 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is a globalist scam for power!)
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To: Kaslin

Mad man strategy. Are we starting to get it here? A little? Maybe?


22 posted on 05/28/2017 6:23:23 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: allendale

While it’s undeniable that most admirals failed to recognize that battleships had been overtaken by aircraft carriers as the capital ship of modern navies between the world wars, I respectfully disagree that this fact buttresses your view of today’s carrier force. Aside from the Arizona and the Oklahoma lost at Pearl Harbor, where they were caught essentially defenseless, the US Navy lost zero battleships during WWII.

The navies of Germany, Italy, and Japan were unable, aside from the submarine threat, to mount a sufficient offensive capability to challenge the heavily armored battlewagons. By using fleet tactics that others have alluded to in regards to modern carrier task force operations, destroyers and other smaller ships, along with air cover from carriers, kept the large ships relatively safe.

It’s a fact of warfare that assets are lost in combat. The US Navy lost twelve carriers, but in so doing dispatched twenty Japanese carriers. It was the overall superiority of numbers, training, logistics, weapons and operations that won the battle. It’s ever thus. I see no nation that will easily challenge American naval power in the foreseeable future. Keeping the technological edge, and the will to win if war breaks out, are the keys going forward.


23 posted on 05/28/2017 8:11:04 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Any rational American would hope that both of you are correct and that the surface ships of the US Navy can defend themselves and survive the attacks of a modern technologically sophisticated opponent. In the event of an all out war against such an opponent and the use of those ships in the offensive roles for which they were designed, literally tens of thousands of sailors, aviators and Marines depend on those defenses and strategies. Also have little doubt that various battle scenarios have been run at the Naval War College and the Pentagon gaming this concept. Obviously the results will never be made public. Simple point is that technological development moves fast and is lethal. Remember recent history. Saddam’s battle hardened veteran army was decimated in less than a week. Most of the Iraqis who died never saw the soldier or plane that killed them. Once they were located, they were destroyed with technology from twenty five years ago.

As an aside often wondered what that war gaming concluded about the fate of the big capital blue water ships of the US Navy in the shallow, narrow Persian Gulf if shooting had started. Could those ships survive the attacks of the modern Chinese made stealthy shore to ship missiles the Iranians purchased and deployed, traditional less sophisticated missiles and asymmetric attacks from small craft and suicide boats? Suspect the gaming estimated that over 95% of attacking ordnance would be stopped by defensive weaponry but ships would be hit, damaged and some sunk. Did the Obama administration conclude our position within the Gulf was untenable and was that one of the reasons we disengaged and routinely no longer keep large forces in the actual Gulf?


24 posted on 05/28/2017 10:09:42 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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Saddam’s battle hardened veteran army was decimated in less than a week.

Saddam's military was a ragtag, third world force that could not defeat Iran over 8 years. They lacked organization, cohesion, and the will to fight. Very overrated. I went into Kuwait a few days after the end of the Gulf War and toured the "mile of death" from the air and on the ground amid the burning oil wells. This "battle hardened veteran army" were just a bunch of looters and cowards. At the first sound of battle they ran. A number of them surrendered to reporters. Remember Baghdad Bob?

As an aside often wondered what that war gaming concluded about the fate of the big capital blue water ships of the US Navy in the shallow, narrow Persian Gulf if shooting had started. Could those ships survive the attacks of the modern Chinese made stealthy shore to ship missiles the Iranians purchased and deployed, traditional less sophisticated missiles and asymmetric attacks from small craft and suicide boats?

We don't deploy our carrier groups close to shore or within range of these missiles. We have anti-missile defenses along with electronic countermeasures. Our enemy is being watched and tracked via satellites.

Carriers are not "coffins" nor are our tanks, planes, and helicopters. We are aware of our potential enemies' capabilities and take appropriate measures to reduce our vulnerability to them. Any Iranian attack on our carriers will trigger a massive, overwhelming response that will devastate their country. Despite all of their bluster, the mullahs are not suicidal. They want to retain their wealth and power.

25 posted on 05/28/2017 10:37:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

Trump should personally introduce him to every member of the WH “press” corpse.


26 posted on 05/28/2017 10:44:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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i think attacking an aircraft carrier wold lead to immediate nuclear reprisals

Just like it did when an American City, and the Pentagon were attacked?

27 posted on 05/29/2017 6:03:20 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make US Intelligence great again!)
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“Saddam’s battle hardened veteran army was decimated in less than a week.”

No, it was not decimated, it was DESTROYED.


28 posted on 05/29/2017 9:41:37 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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