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To: socialism_stinX
I think you're being a bit too pessimistic about autonomous vehicles. There already are a bunch of vehicles on the road with self-driving capabilities, and once fully-capable self-driving comes about (in about 3-4 years), we will be seeing a quick trend by drivers/owners and taxi fleets and truck fleets and ride-sharing services and government fleets, towards adoption of those autonomous vehicles, where the totality of self-driving vehicles could then easily surpass 10% of vehicles on the road. After that, it would be like toppling dominoes, where the movement towards 50% or more of vehicles on the road would be of the self-driven type, in less than 10 years.

And then, with those vehicles being a lot safer than people driven types, and accident occurrence dropping to a tiny fraction of current incidents, insurance rates would come down dramatically, which would mean that, autonomous vehicle manufacturers could afford to insure those vehicles themselves, with no external insurance companies involved. IOW, there will be no chance at all of those vehicles bankrupting the automakers.
11 posted on 05/25/2017 8:23:29 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: adorno

Unfortunately those of us in the more rural areas will have to buy really expensive cars with sensors like a modern fighter jet. No thanks. This is a city thing.


16 posted on 05/25/2017 8:29:24 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: adorno

I don’t think fully capable self-driving cars will exist in 3 to 5 years. It will be more like 25 years or more. The engineers are going to hit a wall in the next few years when they try to solve tough technical challenges like passing slower vehicles on 2 lanes roads in the country. That’s a very tough software development challenge and there’s zero room for error because any mistake can result in a fatal head-on collision. We might see fully autonomous vehicles in controlled environments in cities, where wifi beacons can tell the vehicles where they are at all times. Something like that might work, but there’s an astonishing number of situations that can occur out in the suburbs and in the country—things like frontage roads running right next to 2-lane highways with vehicles driving in the opposite direction on those frontage roads. That’s just one example; there’s so many situations and different kinds of road markings and weather conditions.

The litigation issue is complex. Autonomous vehicles could end up being safer drivers than humans overall, but when a human causes an accident, the victims can only sue that person and then his insurance company pays for damages. Those individual drivers generally don’t have very deep pockets so the damage payouts are generally quite limited. But auto manufacturers have deep pockets and the trial lawyers will go after them for billions of dollars if those autonomous vehicles cause numerous accidents, even if the accident rate per 1000 miles is much lower than the rate for human drivers. It’s a complex subject, but I think VC people are getting way ahead of themselves about fully autonomous fleets of vehicles.


18 posted on 05/25/2017 8:38:53 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (Not only does socialism stink, but when given enough time it wrecks any national economy.)
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To: adorno

Unicorns. You forget unicorns.


44 posted on 05/26/2017 4:05:42 AM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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