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1 posted on 05/23/2017 2:49:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Doctors would flee the state in droves......................


2 posted on 05/23/2017 2:53:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Kaslin
The relevant number for available funds is not$400 billion. It is the total value of the non elite private citizens in California. All of that is accessible and will be expropriated in due time to fund this vision of Utopia wherein everyone has equal access to healthcare.

That all, of course, doesn't mean any particular non elite person gets to see a doctor when he is ill or receives medicine or treatment for any particular condition but, in healthcare, he is equal to everyone else and all have "access" in that everyone has an equal right to fill out forms.

3 posted on 05/23/2017 2:54:26 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Kaslin

Saw a guy in front of the .99 cents store in Chino Hills CA today getting signatures to impeach the local State Rep for voting to raise the gas tax .12 cents. Much more to come even in libertard CA if the madness continues. See Gray Davis.


4 posted on 05/23/2017 2:55:24 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Kaslin
they’re not paying for it. If they’re employed under the table,
6 posted on 05/23/2017 3:01:03 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Kaslin

How quickly can they get it in place I wonder? I’m in CA and about to retire, hope they don’t upset my situ.


7 posted on 05/23/2017 3:06:49 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Kaslin

Silicon valley is where programming jobs are...otherwise I would not let the door hit my backside on my way out of this crazy state.


8 posted on 05/23/2017 3:07:04 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Kaslin

I own a small business in Orange County, Ca. If this plan goes through I can say with certainty that my business will not survive. Most businesses in my industry will also go away. The same will happen in most industries. Unemployment will skyrocket. Commercial real estate will plummet along with residential real estate. This will be an unforced error of unparalleled proportions. The golden goose within the golden state will be dead. We will have many new residents from around the world to add to our destitute population, however.

To think that a small handful of democRAT politicians including our geriatric governor should be pushing this program is absurd. Its only purpose is to appease the crazies of our state and to buy votes for re-election forever and forever.


9 posted on 05/23/2017 3:08:23 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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If California voters want a single payer system let them have it. When the costs are orders of magnitude greater than the original projections and the revenue from new taxes fall below those originally projected it will serve as a cautionary example for other states that propose these utopian schemes.


10 posted on 05/23/2017 3:35:31 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Kaslin

If I were a Californian, I would vote for it as I was packing my bags.


12 posted on 05/23/2017 3:41:23 PM PDT by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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“From the Sacramento Bee: “It would cost $400 billion [per year] to remake California’s health insurance marketplace and create a publicly funded universal heath care system…” Do you know what the California state budget is per year? It’s $180 billion. The state budget of California is $180 billion. The Democrats there are serious in proposing that California go single payer.

My wife and I heard this data from a SF Bay Area TV.

As a nurse, she is great at figuring appropriate doses of meds for patients of any weight, age and other factors.

This stuff makes her head spin, but she said, “Whoa, are they using new math here?”

I suggested that she forget the billion $’s and use $400 and $180 for a year re costs and what the state income is per year.

She immediately got the right answer. She said. “To pay for this Health Care for California for a year, they can’t spend a dime on anything else and need to borrow or get funding from DC for more than double our yearly budget if this happens.

Then being a nurse, she said that countries would be sending boat loads and plane loads of theif sick people to California for free health care.

I told her not to forget the people in the rest of America who will be flocking to California for free medical care in California.

Then, I told her that in 2015, U.S. health care spending increased 5.8 percent to reach $3.2 trillion, or $9,990 per person.

At that point, she said that she didn’t want any more math lessons.


18 posted on 05/23/2017 3:50:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (120+ days without Hilliarly/Huma as POTUS! Thanks, President Trump for this great reality gift!)
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To: Kaslin

Tax Hollywood 50% and go for it CA. The rest of us will watch your “progress.”


20 posted on 05/23/2017 3:53:15 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Kaslin

Already tried someplace - Vermont maybe? - lasted one year - being progressive means you never have to learn from experience......


25 posted on 05/23/2017 4:20:41 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Hey guys, off topic but do any of you have any idea how many votes Trump got in CA under the American Independent Ballot line?

CA Sec of State doesn’t seem to have his vote totals separated by ballot line.


29 posted on 05/23/2017 9:56:31 PM PDT by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: Kaslin

As long as there is no bailout when they declare bankruptcy, I don’t care what they do.


31 posted on 05/24/2017 2:36:53 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Kaslin

Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.


32 posted on 05/24/2017 3:34:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
National single payer will be attempted within this year.

The key weaknesses of Romneycare, Obamacare, the failed Vermont experiment, and the failing California plan are three: First, they are trying to nationalize the insurance system rather than nationalizing the hospitals, labs, and their employees. Second, they are planning to "cover everything", including things that people can and should pay for themselves. Third, they have not provided a robust private option so "the rich" can legally create a sector which, if it's not legal, will bleed the best talent off to the Caymans or Costa Rica.

Single payer backbone health care can be done, and it can be done well, if it is designed to complement and to incentivize the private sector. It can also create Soviet-style conditions for 99% of the population while the five-county DC area luxuriates in private, special care for politicians.

It's up to you how single payer is done.

It is inevitable that it's coming.

37 posted on 05/24/2017 3:57:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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California wants single payer - as long as the payer is someone else.


39 posted on 05/24/2017 7:11:18 AM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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