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To: dp0622

There are generally only six countries out of the EU (28 total) that has positive benefits for asylum seekers. The six are Netherlands, UK, France, Germany, Belgium and Sweden. Most (especially Portugal and Greece) are the absolute bottom of benefits or help to restart your new life as an immigrant.

In the case of the UK, Germany, Belgium, France and Sweden....all, either intentionally or accidentally, created ghetto-like conditions over the past forty years, and created massive urban-planning problems, and crime-zones (no-go areas).

The EU solution, because no one wants to say ‘no’ or set a limit, is to force all 28 members to accept a certain number each year. While they agreed in prinicpal to accept that EU ‘number’...oddly, they haven’t gone to the next step where you’d actually bring that number in, So various countries (especially Hungary) barely enforce the EU regulation, thus getting the EU hostile that they won’t obey the EU.

Adding to this whole issue is the simple fact that almost all of the 28 members of the EU...have a negative birth-rate. If they did absolutely nothing, over the next 500 years...they’d all be down to 25-percent of their present population. None of them can operate a social system, pension system, or continue manufacturing numbers with this type of long-term problem.


17 posted on 05/08/2017 2:30:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

The problems you mention run much deeper than the refugees or those who have already lived there a few generations.

W Europe is in an existential crisis i they are not having kids, not even at a number that replaces those who, frankly, die.

I would be more optimistic if I read about at least SOME thriving non radical muslim neighborhoods in one of these countries.

I dont think I’ll see W. Europe totally overrun in my lifetime, but it seems like the facts dictate that it must happen eventually.


20 posted on 05/08/2017 2:38:40 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: pepsionice

That all sounds persuasive in the surface
But you have to then ask why type of social,system and high tech manufacturing/pension- paying taxable economy is going to be carried by the 5-6 muslim children per family being born into an ideology of mildly scorning to outright hating their host culture and western values,


24 posted on 05/08/2017 3:07:48 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: pepsionice

In the case of the UK, Germany, Belgium, France and Sweden....all, either intentionally or accidentally, created ghetto-like conditions over the past forty years, and created massive urban-planning problems, and crime-zones (no-go areas).


The EU leftists/corportists want to subsidize the creation of more ghettos in other countries.


43 posted on 05/08/2017 5:09:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: pepsionice

—”Adding to this whole issue is the simple fact that almost all of the 28 members of the EU...have a negative birth-rate. If they did absolutely nothing, over the next 500 years...they’d all be down to 25-percent of their present population. None of them can operate a social system, pension system, or continue manufacturing numbers with this type of long-term problem.”

Yep, so Merkel knew in order to continue their benefits, they needed some worker drones (slaves of a sort) to do the real work in their countries. They also lowered their cultural standards for admission to the country by accepting people who believe in Sharia Law, which is a cancer to any free, constitutional democracy. They’ll learn a painful lesson.


155 posted on 05/08/2017 3:26:51 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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