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1 posted on 05/04/2017 1:37:59 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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“I grew up poor, in Leeds, Ala., in the ’60s and ’70s. We had Selma, we had Montgomery, Blacks were still at war with the democrat party. they were the southern confederates and slave owners. As soon as they Killed our Leader MLK Jr, the entire Black Population kneeled before the Masters of the KKK, the Democrat Party and pledged our loyalty to them. We have been on their plantation ever since even though they continually lie to us and make our lives worse as they enslave us in dependency.

There finished his paragraph.


56 posted on 05/04/2017 2:10:31 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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The Ctrl-Left will continue to talk at us about race in America. They are thugs and they use “race” to bully those who do not keep up with the exact right politically correct phrasing of the day, but they have no interest in listening or in respecting those who disagree with them. I have lived my whole life by MLK’s words to judge others by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, while leftists pretend it’s racist to see people as individuals rather than under the labels that democrats use to divide us for identity politics.

They will continue talking at us about race, with or without my permission, but I will not engage with them. It’s a trap. It’s always a trap. They cannot be convinced. Their minds are closed. They will not even consider the possibility that Nanny State and paternalistic government policies hurt the people they claim are so delicate and inept that they need the government to run their lives for them. Democrats are overwhelmingly disgusting racists, but even if they know the truth, they would never admit it.


60 posted on 05/04/2017 2:12:19 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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and now 50 years later we’re more divided than ever

That's what 50 years of pampered angry negroes constantly yapping about their imagined grievances will get you.

STFU, Charles, you stupid XXXX! We don't need to "talk about race". We've done too much of that already. Race obsessed people (that would be YOU, Chucky) need to get help for your neuroses.

61 posted on 05/04/2017 2:12:22 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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*&%$(#@ when will we stop talking about it? It always the same: Whitey is guilty and give us his money, and let us get away with crime cuz we oppressed.


62 posted on 05/04/2017 2:13:15 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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The Talk: Nonblack Version

“There is a talk that nonblack Americans have with their kids, too.”

http://tinyurl.com/The-Talk-Nonblack-Version

(1) Among your fellow citizens are forty million who identify as black, and whom I shall refer to as black.
The cumbersome (and MLK-noncompliant) term “African-American” seems to be in decline, thank goodness.
“Colored” and “Negro” are archaisms.
What you must call “the ‘N’ word” is used freely among blacks but is taboo to nonblacks.

(2) American blacks are descended from West African populations, with some white and aboriginal-American admixture. The overall average of non-African admixture is 20-25 percent. The admixture distribution is nonlinear, though: “It seems that around 10 percent of the African American population is more than half European in ancestry.” (Same link.)

(3) Your own ancestry is mixed north-European and northeast-Asian, but blacks will take you to be white.

(4) The default principle in everyday personal encounters is, that as a fellow citizen, with the same rights and obligations as yourself, any individual black is entitled to the same courtesies you would extend to a nonblack citizen. That is basic good manners and good citizenship. In some unusual circumstances, however—e.g., paragraph (10h) below—this default principle should be overridden by considerations of personal safety.

(5) As with any population of such a size, there is great variation among blacks in every human trait (except, obviously, the trait of identifying oneself as black). They come fat, thin, tall, short, dumb, smart, introverted, extroverted, honest, crooked, athletic, sedentary, fastidious, sloppy, amiable, and obnoxious. There are black geniuses and black morons. There are black saints and black psychopaths. In a population of forty million, you will find almost any human type. Only at the far, far extremes of certain traits are there absences. There are, for example, no black Fields Medal winners. While this is civilizationally consequential, it will not likely ever be important to you personally. Most people live and die without ever meeting (or wishing to meet) a Fields Medal winner.

(6) As you go through life, however, you will experience an ever larger number of encounters with black Americans. Assuming your encounters are random—for example, not restricted only to black convicted murderers or to black investment bankers—the Law of Large Numbers will inevitably kick in. You will observe that the means—the averages—of many traits are very different for black and white Americans, as has been confirmed by methodical inquiries in the human sciences.

(7) Of most importance to your personal safety are the very different means for antisocial behavior, which you will see reflected in, for instance, school disciplinary measures, political corruption, and criminal convictions.

(8) These differences are magnified by the hostility many blacks feel toward whites. Thus, while black-on-black behavior is more antisocial in the average than is white-on-white behavior, average black-on-white behavior is a degree more antisocial yet.

(9) A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us. A much larger cohort of blacks—around half—will go along passively if the five percent take leadership in some event. They will do this out of racial solidarity, the natural willingness of most human beings to be led, and a vague feeling that whites have it coming.

(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense:

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).

(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.

(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.

(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.

(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.

(11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. “Life is an IQ test.”

(12) There is a magnifying effect here, too, caused by affirmative action. In a pure meritocracy there would be very low proportions of blacks in cognitively demanding jobs. Because of affirmative action, the proportions are higher. In government work, they are very high. Thus, in those encounters with strangers that involve cognitive engagement, ceteris paribus the black stranger will be less intelligent than the white. In such encounters, therefore—for example, at a government office—you will, on average, be dealt with more competently by a white than by a black. If that hostility-based magnifying effect (paragraph 8) is also in play, you will be dealt with more politely, too. “The DMV lady“ is a statistical truth, not a myth.

(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).


64 posted on 05/04/2017 2:26:04 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best Long Term Prepper Tactic: Beat The Muslim Takeover - Have Big Families)
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"Time we talk about race in America."

-- Charles Barkley


Damn skippy. Lets do that, shall we?


The Color of Crime
By Edwin S. Rubenstein, M.A.
New Century Foundation

Major Findings



https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

65 posted on 05/04/2017 2:31:05 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Who cares what this dumbass thinks?


68 posted on 05/04/2017 2:37:45 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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Lets start the discussion on race by arguing the poor state of blacks in the US is a result of their dysfunctional CULTURE and NOT racism or discrimination. Blacks are not going to prosper until they reject ghetto culture which is incompatible with success.


69 posted on 05/04/2017 2:41:46 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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It’s time to stop talking about race in America actually.


71 posted on 05/04/2017 2:45:46 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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I wonder how Charles would react if the NBA had quotas imposed and more Asians, Latins and Caucasians were mandated to be on every team so there was a racial balance that mirrored the population.

What kind of dialogue would he want then?

73 posted on 05/04/2017 2:50:35 PM PDT by llevrok (A group of baboons is called a "congress." Just sayin' .....)
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We’ve been talking about it since 1830. Stick to basketball.


74 posted on 05/04/2017 2:52:46 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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Not interested Charlie so either talk basketball or get lost. I couldn’t care less about your whining bull shit.


75 posted on 05/04/2017 2:58:11 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Charles, we have been talking about race for years. Thought it was settled, but you and many others want to keep it on the front page forever.


78 posted on 05/04/2017 3:20:08 PM PDT by mulligan
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Good - Let’s start with the “Bell Curve”.


80 posted on 05/04/2017 3:33:00 PM PDT by aquila48
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I understand, and support Black Lives Matter.

That's where I'm done reading.

82 posted on 05/04/2017 4:10:10 PM PDT by umgud
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If people would be responsible for themselves and respect others we wouldn’t even need the dialogue.

Mark 12:30-31

Then there’s the poison of “pride” which everybody carries these days. Especially the ignorant.


84 posted on 05/04/2017 4:47:16 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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Acts 17:24-26
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
85 posted on 05/04/2017 4:57:33 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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“I grew up poor, in Leeds, Ala., in the ’60s and ’70s. We had Selma, we had Montgomery, and now 50 years later we’re more divided than ever,”

And he's a 54 year old man with a net worth of $40 million. It's been tough, I'm sure.

86 posted on 05/04/2017 5:04:01 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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