[Jim W N]

Who said anything about not big happy with building the wall?

Get a grip. You and I both know Trump promised repeatedly and often that Mexico would pay for the wall (not “the wall will pay for itself”). The wall may very well pay for itself but that was not Trump’s argument or promise during the campaign. Pay attention.

Holding a politician to his promises is not “bellyaching” - it’s called “TRUST BUT VERIFY”, not unlike a treaty. NOT holding politicians to their promises is how we got into this mess to begin with.

If Trump was going to build a wall regardless of who pays for it then he should have said so during the campaign. But he didn’t. Time to wise up and hold politicians accountable for their promises.

[Kazan]

You and I both know Trump promised repeatedly and often that Mexico would pay for the wall

Who gives a hoot if Mexico pays for it or not? The money is utterly insignificant. That it gets built is what matters. If that doesn't satisfy you, you're hopeless and just looking for something to be miserable about.

It's this kind of nonsense that makes even principled politicians believe they can't satisfy their base. That makes them more likely to break promise. You'd doing more harm than good, assuming you're not some liberal troll to begin with.

[Kazan]

And, you don't seem to grasp that when you're negotiating you start from a position that is unacceptable to those you're trying to make a deal with and then settle for a deal you want.

Even Reagan agreed to tax increases for spending cuts (that never happened).

#NeverHappyEver