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Prosperous Oregon considers historic renter protection law
Associated Press ^ | May 2, 2017 5:06 PM EDT | Andrew Selsky

Posted on 05/02/2017 7:51:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: arrogantsob
Market forces will cause more houses to be built since the price increases are due to excess demand.

Not necessarily. Not a black and white issue, lots of factors involved. Mainly depends on the planning commissions or city planners, and what they allow. City planners always interfere so there is no true market force by itself at work.

For example, with only market forces at work an equilibrium would be reached with all buildable space occupied but liveable. City planners always interfere, some with good results that restrict building to create more quality of life for existing residents; often with bad results due to overbuilding and unfair rent control practices and congestion. There are quite a few towns that preserved open space and prevented congestion while allowing market forces to operate. I don't care which way it goes, I just want a minimal local government that won't interfere too much with the lives of people. If they do, I'll leave.

21 posted on 05/02/2017 10:28:42 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Olog-hai; goodnesswins; PROCON; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

22 posted on 05/02/2017 10:37:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Olog-hai
...Legislature is considering forcing landlords to pay tenants one month’s rent if they use one of the “landlord-based reasons” for evicting a tenant, and three months’ rent if they violate the new law and issue a no-cause eviction...

This will backfire,

As an Oregon landlord, I will do no-cause terminations of tenancy (not evictions) for undesirable tenants. This is a great benefit for the tenant, even though many do not recognize it.

The reason is that a tenant with an eviction has a very difficult time finding a new rental. There is always a reason to evict "for cause" if a tenant is undesirable. If a tenant is desirable there is never a reason to terminate them. A vacancy costs 2 to 3 months rent.

A no-cause termination keeps an eviction off of a tenant's legal record...

23 posted on 05/02/2017 11:09:43 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Olog-hai
I'm so glad our family moved out of Portland in 68 to Vancouver, Wa.

Ed

24 posted on 05/02/2017 11:34:54 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: cpdiii
Oregon has huge amounts of good land to build upon. It is the socialistic government that distorts the housing market. The local left wing governments are what has distorted the housing market and they and they alone are the reason for the insane prices for housing and rent.

In fairness, Oregon doesn't want California to move north. I agree with them about that. They already have too many refugees from Cali and even the lefties, who would tend to welcome them politically, don't want California style sprawl.

25 posted on 05/03/2017 3:32:53 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Olog-hai

Being in the rental business for many years I have yet to raise rates on occupants. With that being said my cost never stops escalating. Codes are always changing requiring costly additions, insurance is always going up, The country assessor never misses a chance to raise the property taxes even if the property value dips. Many tenants thinks it is perfectly acceptable to knock holes in the walls and doors. They will pitch smoke detectors in the trash because they do want to replace a battery.
Now does any one wonder why rents are always increasing?


26 posted on 05/03/2017 4:10:54 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: roadcat

I’ve never been to Portland, but as I understand it so much of the land around it can’t be developed so in the finite space they have costs will inevitably rise (the very market forces you mention). Kinda like the island of Manhattan, I guess.


27 posted on 05/03/2017 4:30:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Olog-hai

Prosperous Oregon? What the heck does that have to do with anything, even if it’s true?!


28 posted on 05/03/2017 4:32:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla

Just took a quick look at Oregon’s latest budget.

AP lies like a rug.

Prosperous, my a$$.


29 posted on 05/03/2017 4:38:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla

Folks should take a good look at Oregon’s budget. It’s a nightmare.


30 posted on 05/03/2017 4:39:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Organic Panic
I remember an interview with a former mayor of NYC who was asked about rent control. He replied: "You have to understand--Manhattan is an island--there is no additional land."

Oregon's land use policies have turned their cities into islands surrounded by "no build" zones.

Rent control will be next.

Then Manhattan type rents for any new units will follow.
31 posted on 05/03/2017 4:40:42 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Olog-hai
But the inflow has caused a rental housing crisis across the state, with too few homes being built.

Too few homes are being built in Oregon because of excessive government regulation. The solution? New government regulations. The Ctrl-Left is consistent.

32 posted on 05/03/2017 4:52:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: husky ed
I'm so glad our family moved out of Portland in 68 to Vancouver, Wa.

Don't be surprised if Portland's sprawl follows you across the river.

33 posted on 05/03/2017 5:03:07 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Olog-hai

Soon, all rent houses in Portland will resemble the one Dr. Zhivago came back to find occupied.

You buy the house, maintain it, pay the insurance and taxes and the government will tell you who, when, where and what rent you will charge regardless to your expenses and expected profit.

A perfect communist community if ever there was one.


34 posted on 05/03/2017 5:27:47 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: cherry

Because of all the SF employers moving to Portland and bringing employees with them.


35 posted on 05/03/2017 7:49:10 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: roadcat

You are describing impediments to market forces not the market forces themselves. We can say what SHOULD happen but that does not mean it will.

A different framework for analysis is needed to account for government involvement but two things are obvious: 1-the excess demand will not go away and 2- the quantity of housing will not be increased as much as a market without the impediments.


36 posted on 05/03/2017 11:16:18 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: okie 54

We always complain of the lack of “affordable housing” when what should be understood as the presence of unaffordable tenants.


37 posted on 05/03/2017 11:19:08 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: mac_truck
I live up the gorge in the Tri-Cities now. Maybe by the year 2525 ;-)

Ed

38 posted on 05/03/2017 11:45:09 AM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: kearnyirish2
I’ve never been to Portland, ...

It's no Manhattan. I've been to Portland, and to Manhattan. Manhattan is a lot of fun, all parts of it. Portland has a small yuppie downtown, very small. Surrounded by yucky neighborhoods where you feel you need protection if you get out of your car. Not where I would want to live.

39 posted on 05/03/2017 6:52:09 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

The comparison to Manhattan was only in terms of the limitations of buildable land; I’m no fan of NYC, but I’d rather deal with that than Portland (based on what I know about both). Some people love the northwest; I’d hate to live in the coastal cities there (though I’d probably be quite comfortable inland in either Washington or Oregon).


40 posted on 05/03/2017 7:45:31 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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