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US, Turkish nerves fray as Erdogan visit nears
Al Monitor ^ | May 2, 2017 | Amberin Zaman

Posted on 05/02/2017 12:31:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Soon after Turkish air force jets carried out a wave of airstrikes against Kurdish targets in northeastern Syria and northwestern Iraq on April 25, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu spoke with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson over the phone. The reported tone of the conversation speaks volumes about the new low in Turkish-American relations ahead of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s planned May 16 meeting with President Donald Trump.

SummaryPrint The Turkish foreign minister shared a heated conversation with his American counterpart in the wake of the Turkish airstrikes in Syria, and despite US fury, Ankara's increasingly roguish behavior will likely remain unchanged.

According to three separate sources familiar with the details of the exchange, it went horribly. Cavusoglu’s shrilly defensive explanation of why Turkey had ignored US calls to back off and bombed the headquarters of the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) on Mount Karachok, killing 28 militants and endangering US special operations forces’ lives, didn’t cut any ice. One of the sources told Al-Monitor on condition of strict anonymity, “At one stage in the conversation Tillerson was kind of like saying 'OK, whatever, you go your way, we will go ours.'” Another said, “It wasn’t quite that dramatic,” but concurred that the phone call went badly.

Turkey’s top diplomat has a reputation for being very undiplomatic. Cavusoglu is brusque, aggressive and there is talk that he may soon be replaced. But according to the sources, Tillerson was the undiplomatic one this time. “Tillerson made no attempt to disguise his fury over the attacks. Cavusoglu didn’t get to say much,” one of the sources said. The Turkish military reportedly gave only 52 minutes' warning to coalition forces before carrying out the airstrikes, putting their lives at risk. The United States had troops in Syria within six miles of the strikes.

A coalition official told Al-Monitor on condition that he not be identified by name, “The Turks did not even provide specific coordinates for where they would be bombing. All they gave us was a box.” The lack of information was probably to prevent the coalition from tipping off the YPG so it could clear out in time.

Ibrahin Kalin, the presidential spokesman whose name is making the rounds as a potential replacement for Cavusoglu, is due to arrive in Washington May 8 for meetings with National Security Council and State Department officials to smooth the ground ahead of Erdogan’s trip.

The former academic, who also taught at Georgetown University, is together with Turkey’s spy chief Hakan Fidan the go-to people for Western officials when they want to get a message across or questions answered. Kalin is said to enjoy the backing of Erdogan’s younger son Bilal. But Berat Albayrak, the energy minister who is married to Erdogan’s elder daughter Esra, wants to be the foreign minister as well.

The head of the Turkish Armed Forces, Gen. Hulusi Akar, is also expected to hold talks in Washington before Erdogan’s arrival, presumably to persuade Pentagon officials to accept Turkey’s offer to partner with US forces in the long-planned operation to capture Raqqa, Al-Monitor has learned. He is unlikely to succeed.

To be sure, many analysts are voicing skepticism about the success of the Trump-Erdogan meeting. “Fundamental differences will remain resolved,” said Gonul Tol, the executive director of the Middle East Institute’s Turkey program. Tol told Al-Monitor, “For as long as the United States and the Syrian Kurds are in partnership, relations between Ankara and Washington will by default remain rocky."

Tol added, "Turkish hopes that Trump would change course in Syria in Turkey’s favor were unrealistic from the start. Surprising as it may sound, the Trump administration is seriously alarmed by Turkey's rapid descent into authoritarianism and view it as an unreliable ally.”

Yet Turkey’s increasingly roguish behavior will likely remain unchanged. Asli Aydintasbas, a senior fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, told Al-Monitor in a telephone interview, “The airstrikes against the YPG were Erdogan’s way of being heard.” She added, “He is telling the Americans we can disrupt your plans, and he can."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airattack; erdogan; erdoganvisit; tillerson; turk
WOW! I love it. T-Rex is a seasoned policy executive, he is extremely intelligent, controlled, calculating and is poker faced.

But NOW? He is pure POed. Raw anger. No sugar coating.

And he IS JUSTIFIED.

No Turkish BS will plaster over this.

And the lady quoted from the CFR is full of it too.

1 posted on 05/02/2017 12:31:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

1. Abandon Incirlik and any remaining listening posts in Turkey. 2. Evacuate all American personnel from Turkey. 3. Restrict American tourists from Turkey. 4. Set up emergency bases in Kurdish territory. 5. Work a deal to move logistics to Israel. 6. Throw Turkey out of NATO. 7. Fight back against the Turkish invasion. 8. Sit down and negotiate.

As secure as the last election in Turkey makes Erdogan seem, Turkey is on the verge of breaking into three or four states. That would be an easier situation to deal with than Erdogan as Sultan.


2 posted on 05/02/2017 12:46:17 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Texas Fossil

Tell the Turks to pull ALL their forces out of Syria. Arm our Syrian Kurd allies with anti-aircraft missiles and increase the number of heavy anti-tank weapons we provide. Then, and only then, will the Islamist Turks know we’re serious.


3 posted on 05/02/2017 12:49:44 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison)
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To: House Atreides

It will happen. Erdogan has his super powers. He is Dictator now.

He will commit genocide like his ancestors.

Only thing that will stop him is just what you said. Pure force.

In previous times, the Kemalist would have already removed him, they have made peace with him from what I’ve read. (that may only be the leadership, the die hard Kemalist may yet deal with him.)

There is the issue with pending lawsuits in NY. Involving Erdogan and family with the Halkbank and Iranian sanction bypassing. This is something that Trump has over Erdogan.


4 posted on 05/02/2017 1:07:30 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Gen.Blather

He is dictator. He stole the Referendum that gave him super powers. He will go rogue and attempt genocide again.

We’ll soon see how bad this is going to be. If he shows up in Russia and in the US for meetings as scheduled, it will be lightening and fireworks. But so be it.


5 posted on 05/02/2017 1:09:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

YES! Turkey deserves more than a mouthful


6 posted on 05/02/2017 1:33:36 PM PDT by bjcoop
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