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There May Be More To North Korea’s ‘Failed’ Missile Test Than Meets The Eye
dailycaller.com ^ | 5/2/17 | Ryan Pickrell

Posted on 05/02/2017 9:20:51 AM PDT by ColdOne

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To: LS

“If it gets over the mid-Pacific an EMP would take out CA, OR, and WA.”

Uhhhh.....no. Only in movies


21 posted on 05/02/2017 9:55:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: struggle
"For an EMP, you would need a nuclear explosion, which would be instantly traceable through isotope release in the air."

It took a nuclear weapon to trigger the effect initially, and would likely still require one for a "continent effecting" EMP weapon, but for "theater-sized" weapons, conventional explosives will work. A quick search of "non-nuclear EMP weapons" turns up lots of info.

22 posted on 05/02/2017 9:58:27 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: ought-six

Stupid statement unless you don’t care about the 10 million conservatives living in CA (like my children) and thw owner of this web site.


23 posted on 05/02/2017 10:01:19 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: LS

Question : Delivery? Atmosphere or Stratosphere?


24 posted on 05/02/2017 10:08:26 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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To: AppyPappy

Yes. Bill Forstchen, a good friend, has lectured the Army War College and the Pentagon and is an expert on EMPs. It is a very, very real possibility as I described and as he confirmed.


25 posted on 05/02/2017 10:18:56 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: GOYAKLA

I don’t know how high up. I just know that Bill Forstchen, who wrote the best seller “One Second After” about EMP and who has lectured about EMP at the Army War College and given briefings to the Pentagon about EMPs, confirms that a N. Pacific blast would do just what I said.


26 posted on 05/02/2017 10:19:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: AppyPappy

Does not an EMP weapon need a thermo Nuclear trigger to create the pulse?


27 posted on 05/02/2017 10:23:24 AM PDT by Mouton (We have the best elected governments that money can buy)
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To: ColdOne

I believe that missile was shot down. A test of our missile defense Thad system or from the Carl Vinson.


28 posted on 05/02/2017 10:23:54 AM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: corkoman

Low Earth Orbit is not about altitude, it’s about velocity. It’s a “little ways up”, but a “*lot* fast”!

All signs point to this just being a failed missile launch. No nuclear test. Reports of it tumbling. The location. Etc.


29 posted on 05/02/2017 10:27:11 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: batterycommander

They don’t have a sub that can transit to the US West coast, much less the East coast.


30 posted on 05/02/2017 10:40:27 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Portcall24

This sh*t is going to get out of hand quickly. An EMP over South Korea would be devastating let alone Japan or Hawaii. How many more tests do we give the Norks? We seem to be very confident in sea and land anti-ballistic missile systems but we cannot underestimate what this mad man can do. There are many ways to employ WMD’s.


31 posted on 05/02/2017 10:45:27 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I was suggesting it was a test for delivering and detonating a EMP weapon, not an EMP weapon itself.


32 posted on 05/02/2017 11:04:03 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Mouton

Even if it creates a large enough pulse, it will be very targeted. The Russians found that out when they tested it as did we.
Plus there is the possibility that the warhead will malfunction.


33 posted on 05/02/2017 11:07:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Portcall24

Yes, it would be. I agree.


34 posted on 05/02/2017 11:29:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: circlecity

Welllll...

Sure, and so did every launch failure we’ve had after liftoff.

If he pulls an EMP attack, it will affect China.

China won’t sit still for that.


35 posted on 05/02/2017 11:31:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: circlecity

But it should be much, much higher than 44 miles for the suggested coverage of the US.


36 posted on 05/02/2017 11:32:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: LS

We don’t know that he has reduced his nuclear weapons to the point he can place them on a missile.

China isn’t going to put up with this much longer.

They are too exposed.


37 posted on 05/02/2017 11:34:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: AppyPappy

Too many people are reading novels instead of journals.

It seems the consensus is that a city or region might be hurt by an EMP like theirs. But it certainly would not hurt the country as a whole—nor would it be able to shut down everything electrical.

After reading several engineering papers on it, it appears that for a vast majority of people in the country cars will shut off. And then you could start them right back up.

Any attack like that—and it would suck but it would not be a country killer—would result in the Fat boy being skewered. There is no good reason why he would do that.


38 posted on 05/02/2017 11:36:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: DoughtyOne

China would be the best country to deal with this guy. Heck, let em have NK.


39 posted on 05/02/2017 11:54:31 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I wouldn’t mind them setting up a decent replacement, but I’d hate China to be on South Korea’s doorstep.

If that happened, I guess South Korea would simply be Korea.


40 posted on 05/02/2017 12:02:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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