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Ryan is incompetent and McConnell is AWOL
I am a newbie to this forum so excuse me for my mistakes.

One of the best Speakers of the House was a member of the Rat party --- Good ole “Texan” U.S. Speaker of the People’s House “Sam Rayburn.” We even named a lake in Texas after good ole Sam.
Yet the Pubbie party has not been able to get a Speaker of the House that is one half as good as ole “Sam Rayburn.”
Have the Pubbies become brain dead???

Ryan is incompetent and McConnell is AWOL

Told ya I make my share of mistakes but I learn from them. I forgot the /I in my above reply.

I am a newbie to this forum so excuse me for my mistakes.

One of the best Speakers of the House was a member of the Rat party --- Good ole “Texan” U.S. Speaker of the People’s House “Sam Rayburn.” We even named a lake in Texas after good ole Sam.
Yet the Pubbie party has not been able to get a Speaker of the House that is one half as good as ole “Sam Rayburn.”
Have the Pubbies become brain dead???

Things not being addressed:

1) It’s not a govt shutdown that is the issue. It’s the debt ceiling. That would force a REAL gov’t shutdown. And no, don’t chest beat about how enforcing the debt ceiling is great. This is not the world of pre 2008. This is a world where the Federal Reserve can Quantitative Ease trillions of dollars from thin air. You aren’t taking a stand about anything when you say “no more debt”.

2) It really IS only 2017 spending. A new budget is in process. If there’s no Wall in that, then it really is game over. But a CR with a debt ceiling . . . not a significant thing.

3) You Are Not The Base. Keep repeating that. The Base is white guys in the Rust Belt who voted for Obama twice. They don’t give a damn about abortion. They don’t give a damn about conservatism in general. They want manufacturing jobs back, even if the companies have to take a loss doing that that. THEY are the base. Trump would be delighted to have companies bring jobs back operating at a loss. That’s not conservative. Neither is he. But he DOES have it right. Those are the untapped vote reservoir, not red meat conservatives in Texas, and he won’t get them appealing to their conservatism. They are about jobs and only because of THAT are they pro Wall.