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Federal judge hands down $33 million malpractice judgment
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Posted on 04/30/2017 5:04:18 AM PDT by davikkm

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To: Lurker

“If you want to watch the health care industry grind to an instant halt this is the way to do it.”

You’re right, of course. If the “health care industry” had to survive on providing services with prices upfront, and convincing people to pay for every little test, procedure, and pill they would certainly have to shed huge numbers of jobs.

Whether such a demise for the “health care industry” would be bad for patients is unknown. It probably would be good for patients wallets.


41 posted on 04/30/2017 10:07:21 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Rockingham

I think I will go with my cousin’s word since he has been a practicing physician in a large hospital and head of internal medicine for about 30 years.


42 posted on 04/30/2017 10:32:58 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: GailA

Here is the catch Gail, there are adverse reactions to every drug, pollen, airborne chemical, and food type on the planet. None, I repeat, none of the listed are without adverse effects in some segment of the population. It is a matter of risk versus benefit in every case.


43 posted on 04/30/2017 10:37:25 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Neoliberalnot

In almost another lifetime, I did hospital purchasing. Just out of curiosity, I took up reading the info sheets for pharmacy drug purchases. Almost everything, scrip or not, listed death as a possible side effect.


44 posted on 04/30/2017 10:45:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Rockingham

What we need are more malpractice suits against lawyers and judges.


45 posted on 04/30/2017 10:47:29 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Ok, I read it. Where did Ata Otogho get his “medical degree?” That would be my first question. I notice it wasn’t even mentioned in the article. What loss did Ata suffer besides having to change practice location in the same vicinity?


46 posted on 04/30/2017 10:50:37 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: jjotto

As I wrote in a previous post. Nothing is without risk. People just don’t get that.


47 posted on 04/30/2017 10:52:46 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Howard University


48 posted on 04/30/2017 10:55:43 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Lurker

I was responding to a post about medical insurance, not malpractice.

And I beg to differ, if I could have practiced without a malpractice policy, I would have done so in an instant.

Malpractice insurance is low hanging fruit, file for frivolous things and it is worth it to the insurance company to write a check to make it go away regardless of who is right. The lawyer gets paid for virtually no work.

Without malpractice insurance, the lawyer has to win the case and collect the money to get paid. This is actual work and without deep pockets (insurance companies) the certainty of both winning and collecting goes down. This would make the lawyer really consider the validity of a case before filing.

I probably would have considered a policy to cover legal expenses but a policy to pay malpractice settlements, nope, would have passed.


49 posted on 04/30/2017 12:00:00 PM PDT by dangerdoc (disgruntled)
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To: Rockingham

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that 15-20% of medical costs are doing things to avoid getting sued rather than to things with proven benefit for the patient.


50 posted on 04/30/2017 12:02:00 PM PDT by dangerdoc (disgruntled)
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To: Wolfie
The actual cost of malpractice insurance is not the problem. It's defensive medicine that drives up the costs.

Unless malpractice awards are capped, insurance companies cannot make any fiscal planning.

Argue, rant, and rave all you want, but there will never be affordable health care until malpractice awards are capped.

If the government takes over health care, it will cap them, just as they are limited-to-nonexistent in the military, for the simple reason that uncapped awards are not affordable.

Don't believe me if you don't want to. But just watch.

51 posted on 04/30/2017 12:15:06 PM PDT by Savage Beast (MegaMAGA!)
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To: GailA
Argue, rant, rave all you want, but there will never be affordable health care until malpractice awards are capped.

Unless malpractice awards are capped, insurance companies cannot make any fiscal planning.

If the government takes over health care, it will cap them, just as they are limited-to-nonexistent in the military, for the simple reason that uncapped awards are not affordable.

Don't believe me if you don't want to. But just watch

52 posted on 04/30/2017 12:17:01 PM PDT by Savage Beast (MegaMAGA!)
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To: Savage Beast

The 3% figure includes the cost of defensive medicine.


53 posted on 04/30/2017 2:33:09 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Neoliberalnot

Of course, since lawyers are now running healthcare, I bet they made more than the standard $400/hour.

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$400 per hour would be a cheap lawyer.


54 posted on 04/30/2017 2:47:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: jjotto

Howard huh. They have quite a reputation among low end med schools, if you are serious. I would have guessed Ata got his degree from a 3rd world med school.


55 posted on 04/30/2017 2:54:13 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Wolfie
I doubt that!
56 posted on 05/01/2017 4:32:58 AM PDT by Savage Beast (MegaMAGA!)
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To: Savage Beast

Oh I do believe you, and I didn’t say they should not be capped, yet there needs to be redress for those injured by bad doctors, bad drugs, meshes, asbestos, cleaning chems, I’m not talking about every day ones but the ones like the Military uses highly caustic and dangerous, etc. My husband has holes in his vision from them as they caused Retinitis which was not caught before he mustered out of a 20 year Navy career on the Flight deck. Necessary to keep planes flying but not healthy for those using them. Nor can he claim a disability for it. Hearing loss yes as that is very well known.

My dad smoked since he was 12, I won’t blame the maker, plenty of warnings long before he developed lung cancer were known he could have quit, no will power or want to, it was his choice to pick up the vice. And he paid the big one for it Lung Cancer and a fast death.

I’d no more blame a gun for a criminal act either, and I’m the mother of a murdered child, beat to death with a 2 ft section of fence post. It’s the evil person who used that weapon who is at fault. But I sure want that child/killer rapist put down like the animal he/she is and not take 27 yrs to do it.

Now that baby powdered one is a crock of horse manure.


57 posted on 05/01/2017 5:21:42 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA

Okay. I am heartbroken to learn of your child. Your husband and father also. There’s nothing that I can say. Though we’ve never met, you have touched me deeply. I will be thinking of you and what you have said for a long time, probably forever.


58 posted on 05/01/2017 6:03:47 AM PDT by Savage Beast (MegaMAGA!)
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To: Savage Beast

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2010/09/07/the-true-cost-of-medical-malpractice-it-may-surprise-you/

A new study reveals that the cost of medical malpractice in the United States is running at about $55.6 billion a year – $45.6 billion of which is spent on defensive medicine practiced by physicians seeking to stay clear of lawsuits.

The amount comprises 2.4% of the nation’s total health care expenditure.

The numbers are the result of a Harvard School of Public Health study published in the September edition of Health Affairs, purporting to be the most reliable estimate of malpractice costs to date.


59 posted on 05/01/2017 10:31:52 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Savage Beast

I can add more to that, I loath the medical field. Seen to many bad decisions and actions. Been the victim of them too.

Niece took her high fever convulsing 5 month old infant into the ER in Knoxville, just an ear ache from teething, give her children’s Advil, cool baths, fever kept spiking, she had Spinal Meningitis, good thing my sis the grandma made her daughter take her to a different hospital, she spent a month in it, touch and go as to if she’d live and not be brain damaged.

First brush with their incompetence was when the idiot who put in the IV of just saline in my grand dad’s arm, missed the vein, never noted the massive swelling, several units later they decide to give him a sponge bath, rolled him over on his side, pressure burst his heart. Even the funeral home couldn’t get the swelling down.

5 blown veins because some stupid tech can’t gauge vein size in 1 ER visit, lost half my hearing to a POS Sadistic, skinflint, ENT who runs a third world OR, no anthologist 1 nurse to do the IV pic for the VERSED he guesses at. No vitals and 98% of patients are 60 and over, you know they have other health issues, I had to have Cardio clearance. Biggest ENT clinic in Memphis, a Stand Alone, and you can’t get them shut down, no matter how many complaints of malpractice.

When I went for my full Cardio work up took 5 hrs, first idiot put the tiniest needle with the chems through my elbow vein, into my arm, OOPS, took her awhile to find her kit to over tie off the site, turned around and got the other the same way, except for the chems, then had to call for a nurse to do her job, hit the vein first stick. Of course the tech could not find her kit, that all took an extra hr. Stress test doc not on floor, and it was not lunch time, 1 hr wait, chems caused severe pain in whole body to the point of heart attack, they would not stop. Just kept yelling at me to breathe through a clogged up nose from crying and my screaming for them to stop. Took that sucker 30 mins to 2 finger type his report into the computer, some foreigner. Not 1 ice chip, in 5 hrs, totally dehydrated, not even offered a cup of water when they were finished. 1 lady had her IV Cath fall out. They don’t even know what Senior Dehydration looks like, they are not trained to know.

I have no formal medical training and I could do a better job.

Tricare changes (SHOULD READ AWAY FROM) Nexium Coverage
https://tricare.mil/CoveredServices/BenefitUpdates/Archives/05_01_2017-TRICARE-Changes-to-Nexium-Coverage

Omeprazole (Prilosec, Zegerid
http://www.rxlist.com/prilosec-side-effects-drug-center.htm

Rabeprazole
ACIPHEX
http://www.rxlist.com/aciphex-side-effects-drug-center.htm

Pantoprazole (Protonix)
http://www.rxlist.com/protonix-side-effects-drug-center.htm

NO NOTICES HAVE BEEN SENT OUT, and JUNE is not that far off. Pure INCOMPETENCE!


60 posted on 05/02/2017 6:25:52 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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