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Michigan Supreme Court to decide if idling in driveway is drunken driving
Fox 2 Detroit ^ | APR 25 2017

Posted on 04/25/2017 3:10:22 PM PDT by equaviator

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To: Hot Tabasco
Michigan helped give you Trump whether you liked it or not..........

BAZINGA !!

Somebody gonna need some ice

41 posted on 04/25/2017 3:53:52 PM PDT by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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To: BigEdLB

“Seems like overreach by cops.”

Happens when your neighbors have to make multiple calls to the police.


42 posted on 04/25/2017 3:54:48 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: WMarshal

See post 35.

If the part about “including an area designated for the parking of vehicles” had not been included - then Rea gets off.

But his private property driveway IS designated for the parking of vehicles.

So he’s busted.


43 posted on 04/25/2017 3:55:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Gay State Conservative

“I’ve seen it written that if the keys are in the ignition it can be called “drunk driving”. “

You don’t even have to have the keys in the ignition. No one is going to bother you on your own property unless you are an idiot like this guy.

But if you are found drunk on the side of the road in your car with the keys in your pocket ...


44 posted on 04/25/2017 3:56:38 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not under these conditions. I am in no way clueless. Seems to me you are the nose-picker.


45 posted on 04/25/2017 4:01:31 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cop screwed up, sited him for the wrong offense, he needs to lawyer up and get it tossed !


46 posted on 04/25/2017 4:02:14 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: GraceG

“If you are idling parked by the sidewalk and on a public street... Drunk Driving.

If you are on your own driveway... Mind your Own F-—ing Business Copper!”

Damned straight!


47 posted on 04/25/2017 4:03:25 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

MV Statues are NOT written for Private Property.

Give it up you lost.


48 posted on 04/25/2017 4:04:02 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Ancesthntr
However, it is clear that he wasn’t THAT drunk, or he’d have gone into the street. He knew what he was doing, that’s pretty clear.

Not that it makes a (legal) difference, but the article stated that the cops were parked at the end of his driveway, blocking anyone from entering or leaving. He couldn't have gone into the street if he'd wanted to.
49 posted on 04/25/2017 4:04:41 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: 21twelve

I just remembered his defense. He said he was not operating or in control of a motor vehicle because he only started the truck to take a nap to sober up. He needed the AC in the Phoenix heat.

The jury had a discussion about what “control” meant.


50 posted on 04/25/2017 4:06:43 PM PDT by donna (God's standards, like it or not, are the basis for the laws that led to western civilization.)
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To: EVO X

“Who keeps appealing it?

My guess is the local prosecutor.”

A very “uppity” local prosecutor.


51 posted on 04/25/2017 4:07:29 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, the garage is intended for the parking of his vehicles. The driveway is to get to his garage.


52 posted on 04/25/2017 4:07:46 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
His driveway may very well be private property. But is most certaiinly is such an area that one cannot drive while intoxicated.

If you read down further in the Appellate Court decision, they comment that if he were at an apartment building parking lot their ruling would have been different.

53 posted on 04/25/2017 4:07:52 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: CGASMIA68

He did get it tossed.

Twice.

He is so screwed.


54 posted on 04/25/2017 4:07:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: GraceG

Even if the car is not running but the key is still in the ignition you can cited for DUI. My old roommate who was a cop always told me to place the keys behind the drivers left front tire if you plan to pull over and sleep it off.

I had this happen to me outside a club in Philly, even though I hadn’t been drinking. I had just worked a 16 hour shift and went as the designated driver. I was asleep and the state trooper knocked on my window. Since I didn’t have the key they let me go.


55 posted on 04/25/2017 4:08:31 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Responsibility2nd
It could be argued that he INTENDED to exit the driveway and thereby drive while intoxicated.

But while backing out - he saw the cops drive up blocking his exit - and so stopped his intent to DWI and headed back into the house.


Anything can be argued. Any contortion of reason can be and often is employed. But unless the guy leaned out his window and screamed "Get outta my way, coppers!" there is no way to know for sure what he intended unless you can read his mind, and therefore it should not be included in the assessment of the offense. Of course, our legal system is interested in neither justice nor the letter of the law, so anything can happen, really, but we should never lose sight of what SHOULD happen.
56 posted on 04/25/2017 4:10:01 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Responsibility2nd

This guy needs to lawyer up and see if this could be reduced to a Disturbing the Peace type of misdemeanor.
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4th Amendment all the way. They have NO proof after the first call on loud music. I’d look at the “neighbor” seriously!
No mention is made of the hour this occurred. It was NOT the middle of the night according to the court record.
A man’s home is his castle!


57 posted on 04/25/2017 4:11:03 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: CGASMIA68

MV Statues are NOT written for Private Property.

Give it up you lost.

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Wrong. If you’re drunk in your car in a WalMart (Private Property) are you not going to jail for DWI?

Of course you are. You seem to think your private property driveway is different. But I’ve already shown you the state law that says otherwise.

Is the law wrong? You can argue it is. But none of this matters now to Rea. He is screwed.


58 posted on 04/25/2017 4:11:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: WMarshal

No, the garage is intended for the parking of his vehicles. The driveway is to get to his garage.

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Well yeah. But the cops caught him PARKING in his driveway. Picking nits for sure. But that’s what they do.


59 posted on 04/25/2017 4:13:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

This guy needs to sue the neighbor. The cops make no mention of noise on the 2nd and 3rd visit. He needs to defend on the 4th Amendment.


60 posted on 04/25/2017 4:13:31 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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