Posted on 04/21/2017 10:07:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Xi probably didn’t tell Trump about the Treaty of Shimonoseki
Article 1: China recognizes definitively the full and complete independence and autonomy of Korea, and, in consequence, the payment of tribute and the performance of ceremonies and formalities by Korea to China, that are in derogation of such independence and autonomy, shall wholly cease for the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Shimonoseki
I figured since they share a land mass they must have been one people at one time if you go back far enough. I bet they were... possibly before a written record has been kept.
China is much larger, more powerful, more dangerous than either Korea. Buttering them up is not a bad thing to do.
South Korea is about to elect an anti-American leftist president. Invoking Chinese claims on Korea is a pretty good way to scare them into considering the fundamental truth, that they really have only one friend in the world, the US, and the US is much less scary than China.
South Korea needs the US far, far more than the US needs South Korea.
Maybe he can learn about it here and here.
Banned in China ...
This is a good point, the problem with that logic is that if you try to apply this rule universally.
China since 1949 has renounced and denounced all the old “unequal treaties” like this one, imposed as a consequence of all the old imperialist aggressions.
Couldn’t one make the case that during the latter phases of the Korean War NK was a defacto state of China?
“He then went into the history of China and Korea. Not North Korea, Korea. And you know, you’re talking about thousands of years . . . and many wars. And Korea actually used to be a part of China. And after listening for 10 minutes, I realized that it’s not so easy.”
— President Trump, interview with the Wall Street Journal, April 12, 2017
“If Trump said the Chinese president told him that, he’s covered.”
Not really. If the Chinese President is telling you about history the rule of thumb is to believe the exact opposite.
Koreas was never part of China.
It most definitely was part of Japan, which Xi I am sure didn’t mention.
Neither historical facts mean anything except to Chinese fascists like Xi who still think China is the rightful ruler of all Asia and other states should have vassal status.
Korea was a effectively vassal state of China for 500 years. Hotair editors need to learn some basic history here,
“Xi is more right than wrong.
He, or Trump, are both absolutely correct.”
Utter nonsense.
Your own recitation of vassal state status refutes your initial statement.
Korea was never part of China.
Korea was, though, part of Japan for a time.
Linguistically they are very distinct.
Korean is actually very weird.
Korean is so different from Chinese and nearby languages that it constitutes its own language family, an isolate with only very tenuous connections to any other. One theory for instance connects it with Dravidian languages (Tamil, etc.) of Southern India. Thats how far people have looked.
I am a big fan of Korean dramas, and it includes MANY historical series about various and sundry Korean heroes who either stood up to, or rebelled against, Chinese occupiers of Korean territory.
“Korea was never part of China.”
Sure it was. Goes back to the Han dynasty, and over and over since. Look it up.
You can start here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Commanderies_of_Han
So?
Commies always do stuff like that. Renege on agreements.
你五毛對不對？
Figured you out, fifty cent.
There are a huge number of historical facts.
There is no need to lie, for a man like Xi, merely to select the facts that serve his purposes and ignore some others.
China DID control Korea directly or indirectly, for long periods at various times. Korean monarchs kowtowed to many Emperors of China. China had to reconquer Korea occasionally, but that didn’t change the long terms facts.
The United States used to be part of England. And other places. But it’s obvious that Trump has pre-surrendered to Jinping.
All of Asia cares. (facepalm)
For modern China to even sniff in that direction is completely unacceptable. It was a really stupid gaffe.
"China DID control Korea directly or indirectly, for long periods"
Does not support a claim that Korea "was part of China."
In fact, it proves just the opposite.
Merely pointing out that China rejected all these old treaties, so no-one in his right mind would consider this one enforceable.
And China DOES ignore treaties all the time, new or old. The International Law of the Sea for one. What is going to be done about that, never mind something from 1895?
Its all about power. If you have it and they don’t, then you have a treaty. If not, not.
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