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Allied Powers Knew About The Holocaust Two Years Before They Discovered Camps
The Forward ^ | Naomi Zeveloff | April 18, 2017

Posted on 04/18/2017 10:50:44 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: HenpeckedCon

The British were involved in the assignation of Heydrich, but it was because he wanted to have Admiral Canaris killed, and Canaris wanted to end the war.


101 posted on 04/18/2017 2:28:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Interesting, Heydrich wanted Canaris’ head but Himmler didn’t?


102 posted on 04/18/2017 3:53:24 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: HenpeckedCon
I don't know about Himmler, but around that time Heydrich and Canaris got into some kind of dispute. I'm not sure what it was.

Canaris was probably cheating the hangman most of the war. He had been against the war, since before it started. He was in contact with British, U.S., and other "enemy" intelligence the whole time. Sadly, he would have been safe if he had managed a few more months.

103 posted on 04/18/2017 4:03:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: HenpeckedCon
The British knew the Germans were murdering large numbers of Jews in Russia and the Baltic States in the summer of 1941. They were reading reports from the SD-Gestapo to Heydrich’s HQ in Berlin.

And even if he could, Stalin wasn't going to do anything about it. Hitler was solving his "Jewish Problem" for him.

104 posted on 04/18/2017 4:04:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

I always thought Heydrich liked Canaris? I believe they knew each other as Naval officers?


105 posted on 04/18/2017 4:13:05 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: Gaffer

Exactly!

Take a trip to Bastogne and look down the endless rows of crosses; visit the Pacific Islands and experience the malarial battlefields; march to Bataan and imagine the sickening atrocities committed along the trail; sail to the Aleutians with only a field jacket a a couple of wool blankets to keep you warm; take a side trip to Attu and contemplate that the Japanese truly fought to the last man; stand on the escarpments in the beautiful Alps and see the battlements that still remain; wade the beaches of Normandy and color the surf red in your mind; tour North Africa in a car without air; and study the attrition rates of the 8th Air Force (upwards of 50% for much of the war). When you’ve done all this, you’ll have 1% of a clue, because it was all done in relative safety.

The bloody slog to Berlin was won with a total effort on the Allies part; everyone gave their utmost. All the Hollywood epics with the greatest special effects ultimately fail in their attempts to capture the horrors endured by the soldiers. What more could have been done?


106 posted on 04/18/2017 4:31:51 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: vladimir998

Correct.


107 posted on 04/18/2017 5:40:11 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: antidisestablishment

Good post.


108 posted on 04/18/2017 5:45:27 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: nickcarraway

Modern critics with their hindsight seem to think that this would have been easy.

But rail lines could be rebuilt overnight. You could hit the camps themselves- WWII bombs weren’t all that accurate, their CEP circular error probability could be over a thousand feet and some bomb spreads went a mile.

Bombers were scarce resources needed for military targets and not easily diverted. Maybe you could have gotten away with targeting the camps once or twice, but when the Germans figured out that you were interested in them they would be waiting with their flak 88 anti-aircraft cannon.

Look on the links below and you will see that many of the camps were out of range until 1944. You would have been sending bombers out to the far end of their range putting them at even greater risk. As it was bomber crews had a higher casualty rate than even the infantry.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/26/world/nazi-death-camps/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3491950/Animation-shows-location-bomb-dropped-Allies-Second-World-War.html


109 posted on 04/18/2017 6:24:45 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: nickcarraway

Perhaps they shoulda declared war on Germany or summat?


110 posted on 04/18/2017 7:35:53 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I never ever set out to make anyone feel safe. - S E Hinton)
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To: vladimir998

Yep. Known at the time among European citizens.


111 posted on 04/19/2017 2:44:53 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: zerosix

Yep. The families in America never forgot. But in my experience, the gratitude toward the USA for giving them freedom supplanted bitterness about the quota. They blamed Hitler “who took care of them all”. I myself blame the FDR administration, but I’m 2nd generation.


112 posted on 04/19/2017 2:50:27 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: The Westerner
I, too, blame FDR and the very liberal State Department for refusing to recognize true asylum seekers, facing certain death at the hands of an evil regime.

I am just one but I am one and though I cannot save everyone, I can save some.

Now if I refuse to do anything, I am not innocent but definitely guilty of refusing to try to the best of my ability.

113 posted on 04/19/2017 3:13:17 PM PDT by zerosix ( Native Sunflower)
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To: nickcarraway

They knew about it from 1941. They intercepted radio messages of the various SS groups reporting how many Jews they “relocated” from different villages.


114 posted on 04/19/2017 3:17:39 PM PDT by sport
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