Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 9 April 2017

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Dread John McCain...He’s become a total a**.

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He said, “Because hands were lifted up against the throne of the Lord, the Lord will be at war against the Amalekites from generation to generation.” Exodus 17:16

The attack on Syria was unexpected and shocking to most of President Trump’s supporters. A large share of them are tired of nation building and believed him when he said we have tried to build enough nations and it was time to build America. The fact it was done as punishment for using chemical weapons on his own people was hard to justify since that part of the world is always killing and even gassing their own people. President Trump saw it as going over a number of lines and decided a message had to be sent.

As it turned out by all appearances this attack became a feather in his cap. Overnight, similar to Bush with the 911 attack he is looked at in a new light and the world seems to have gotten a message he may or may not have meant to be sent. The sabre rattlers of the planet including Chairman Xi who he was having dinner with have to realize this President will act rather than just talk. They also realize with a Secretary of Defense like “Mad Dog” Mattis will develop a plan to reach out and touch bad guys around the world.

Whether you agree or not, you have to admire the speed and efficiency he used to decide and execute his attack. There was no wishy washy back and forth with Congress or worse yet the UN, it was decided he would make President Assad pay the price for using chemical weapons on his people. The only question many had was if he actually used them or was framed, but President Trump had to have had absolute proof it was Assad’s Air Force which was perhaps the stupidest thing he could have done. There are reports spy agencies had the name of the pilot who dropped the bombs and the punishment was decided.

The surprising piece was how fast Trump’s enemies lined up to cheer the attack. Whether it was the Prime Minister of Britain or the King of Saud, he was supported pretty much universally around the world and much of our own Congress on both sides of the aisle. In the end it was pretty much a pin prick by bombing an air base which will be back up and running within a week or two although taking out his aircraft will hurt him for some time. Let’s hope this is all we want to do with this den of vipers.

The last thing we want to do is topple another dictator in a region there are no good choices. Yes, he is as bad as Saddamn, yet when you take out a despot you are going to have another madman emerge to try to govern a country of Islamic terrorists. The reports are he has killed over 400,000 of his own people, but who says they were innocent. When you are in a vicious civil war those are casualties and yes they likely had atrocities, but take a look at any one of the countries in that region and you will find similar brutality. If we learned anything from Iraq it was if you take down a leader you are committing to being the occupying army for that country for at least ten and more likely twenty years. Of course the Dems will want to pull out in six months and use the occupation as a club to win elections.

The best solution for the Mooselimbs is to let them fight as their Koran requires, and hold their turbans. When the winner emerges you can deal with him and move on. This is not our business or worth any of our precious blood and treasure for a land who has been at war for five thousand years. We cannot solve it or in any way prevent it from happening it is a part of the cult of death.

This is a cult invented by a sexual pedophile who developed a religion to kill Jews and Christians. Moderate Mooselimbs only want to kill Jews and Christians while radical mice want to kill Moderate Muslim. Which ones do you want to trust your Christian sons and daughters with?

Our military once again proved it is the best in the world. When it wants to reach out and touch somebody it can do it from 500 miles away with pinpoint accuracy. It made their display in our Turd century sandbox where nobody was hurt and by the looks of it their airport was nearly as run down as La Guardia, so no harm, no foul.

From President Trump’s standpoint he became the true world leader that night. To be dining with one of the most powerful leaders in the world and launch an attack takes some real nerve. He knew he had to make it happen quick so the message is not lost yet large enough to symbolically make Assad feel some pain which he accomplished. He also sent a message around the world saying America is back to be the world’s cop and he is back on duty with his billyclub.

The massive collateral damage was proving Putin installed the wrong guy. After all of his cunning releasing those damaging Podesta pedophile tapes to WikiLeaks to make sure Harpy was defeated, he got double crossed by Trump. How stupid could he be? This attack made Putin look like he was involved in the gas attack which eliminates him as the world leader.

There is a new pup in town and now Putin and Xi are no longer the Alphas. Whether President Trump planned it or it just happened the world is looking at these three men in a completely different light which bodes well for the world.

President Trump needs to have wisdom in this decision.
We do not need to get ourselves trapped in this war, there are no good sides and most are terrorists. We need to continue to support the Kurds and the Iraqis we know we can trust, but Syria has become a snake pit since many are Al Qaeda who was pushed out of Iraq. Those were extremely brutal warlords who massacre those who stand against them. President Trump has to take his winnings and save them for another day when we will be called on to spank a bad man with a bad haircut rather than being bogged down in this quagmire.

Many who supported Trump never expected to agree with him more than half the time. He is not a pure Conservative, rather a negotiator who will drive purists nuts. He does have the ability to fall into a mud puddle and emerge with a thousand dollar brown suit and this is one of those examples. The initiating the nuclear option to confirm Supreme Court Justice Gorsuch is another. For most conservatives the putting him on the Court was all that was hoped for and anything else is really bonus.

This has all the hallmarks of a very special presidency and we need to pray for his wisdom and strength in this Syrian civil war. America does not need another useless intervention to free people who do not want freedom in the first place. It is time to save Lady Liberty for America.

Pray America woke

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Why can’t McLame and Graham stay home. Who, besides the Commurats, give a hoot what they think?

100% great, Bray!

People ‘round here need to read the wisdom of your words.

Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out. Sending special thanks to Rodguy who knows an awful lot, check out his posts.

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Tuesday-date- 4/4/17 Daily Update

Feinstein never ends; Rice has the smoking gun.

Yes I did watch the Senate judicial committee hearings for Gorsuch. As these things go, it was a bunch of long-winded senators think they are kings and queens of the world.

The prize goes to zero-burger Diane Feinstein (whose husband made millions on government contracts….just an aside).

In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, that woman, a senator from California, went on and on and on and on and on. Many commented on how the witch sat and read her almost half an hour discussion about Gorsuch.

What does it matter? The Dems aren’t voting against Gorsuch because he’s not qualified. The Dems are voting against Gorsuch because he’s a conservative and likely does not believe that people should be peeing in bathrooms meant for the other sex.

Or something.

As of this writing, it is expected that Gorsuch will be the next Supreme court judge although the new senate rule might allow such future nominations to be based on a mere majority rather than that silly 60 vote rule.

I never much understood that 60 vote thing. It’s not in the constitution. Who told those Lords and Ladies that America needs 60 votes to nominate a judge?

I say eliminate the rule and let life go on with the House of Lords up on capital hill needing a majority to pass bills and appoint people.

The biggest news of the day yesterday was the outright lying by that liar Susan Rice.

She’s the one who lied over and over and over about Benghazi.

Got to admire the woman. She lies brazen, out in public, smiles on her face.

I hope to see something done with that awful person but by Republicans?

Heh.

Thursday-date-4/6/17
Daily Update

So yesterday we learned that female employees of Elizabeth Warren only make 71% of what men make.

Now I don’t like ole Liz Warren, also known as Lieawatha.

And in my day, I declare not so proudly, I was quite the Women’s Libber.

But men don’t make more than women other than for some pretty common sense reasons. One of them is NOT that employers pay men more as a matter of course.

Men are more aggressive and lobby for more pay with more vim and vigor than women. Women have children and families to care for and often take part time jobs, or even lower paying jobs with less responsibility that they may concentrate more on the home fires. Women do not as often take high-paying positions that require long hours that would take them away from their home responsibilities.

If a man and a woman have the exact same position, the exact same duties, work the exact same hours…..they mostly make around the same pay.

Not that I’m taking up for Senator Warren, Fauxcohontas.

I watch Nikki Haley give the UN speech and yes, she is impressive.

About that poisonous gas released in Syria….that was the most staged attack I’ve ever seen. They had medical people la-di-da carrying children around that were allegedly gassed.

Not a dead body in sight.

Now I just don’t know but I think that attack was staged although it could have happened elsewhere in Syria.

Anyway, Nikki Haley’s going to get the UN moving, some how, some way.

And Susan Rice continues to be a paid liar-in-chief.

Friday-date-4/7/17 Daily Update

Well there is no news today beyond the strike on Syria last night.

I am not only shocked, I am confused.

Let us establish that Barack Obama himself told Assad that to gas innocent civilians would be cross some kind of red line that Obama had no idea where it was.

Killing kids with saran gas? What the hell is the purpose of that?

President Trump was having dinner with the Chinese contingent and over dessert he told them about the bombing of the Syrian airfield.

We got some silly congress critters out and about and stupidly declaring Trump should have sought congressional approval. Elizabeth Warren was one, also known as Fauxcohontas. Also Mike Lee and Rand Paul.

Somebody tell those dummies that we do not have 530+ commanders in chief, we only have one.

I also am leery that this attack by Assad was faked somehow but lookit, we learned from eight years of President Obama and the very honest and truthful Susan Rice.

We now have a president who takes his job seriously.

He still has my trust but I’m watching.

Saturday-date-4/8/17 Daily Update

It’s been quite a day yesterday, Friday 4/7/17.

Indeed.

For the world woke up to discover that someone bombed a Syrian airplane base and the someone was President Trump.

Goodness he did it right. He gave the inhabitants of the base plenty of notice for the intent was not to blindly and wildly kill people. The intent was for the people throwing poison on innocent civilians to know what will be coming.

I sure don’t understand the mideast, as most Americans don’t I suspect. Here in America we have a constitution that describes our government set up and rules under which it functions. We have elected legislators and we debate loudly and often.

We do not have some whacko job bible type thing that tells us to kill everybody not alleging loyalty to this Koran, to throw gay people off roofs, to make women cover from head to toe, to give power to publicly flog to equal nut jobs called the religious police.

Let’s see….there’s Saudi Arabia controlled by a bunch of retarded incest results from many years past. Most terrorism grows and is nourished by this goofy place.

There’s Iran….which was, once upon a time, a real cool place called Persia. When I was 21 I once dated a Persian. Back then Persia was filled with happy young people, NOT wearing burkas and such. My guy was handsome and sweet and made his own yogurt.

There’s Iraq, now a nut house cause we have learned nothing from Vietnam or Korea. You don’t go making peace somewhere in the world, taking out dictators, then just drop everything and leave that more trouble will return.

Turkey was once considered a solidly secular state but the Arabs, they don’t believe in equal government and representation. They believe who ever gains control….WINS! And they got the Koran to help and a populace that makes lousy soldiers and love to lie.

Egypt got taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood but that didn’t work out. The Muslim Brotherhood, by the way, is composed of a bunch of arabs who pay dues and work to influence leaders of the world….like Valeria Jarrett and Huma Abedin. For the right amount of cash, the Hillarys and Obamas of the world will help you take over their country. The Muslim Brotherhood is no savior of Arab nations.

Libya was governed by Momar Quaddify but the Muslim Brotherhood paid up and America took the guy out and Libya became a mess with a city of Benghazi.

See, I do pay attention. But I sure understand why Americans scratch their heads and wonder why these people can’t get along but Hillary got plenty of money for her campaign.

Dishonest and salivating over oil wealth, get a couple of cheating politicos like Hillary and Obama for example….and the Muslim Brotherhood can take over the planet with a little help from America.

And Russia ain’t helping either.

Finally, the Republicans eliminated that silly 60 vote rule which was never in the constitution and the Dems, as is their wont, figured out a way to cheat and the Republicans fell for it, for many years.

No more. With 54 yes votes to 45 against, Neil Gorsuch is now a judge on the Supreme Court.

They’re vehicles the DNC Driveby Media uses to promote their own agenda. No more, no less.

If either of these freaks started talking and voting like conservatives their “Sunday Show Days” would be a thing of the past.

CNN telegraphs their attack

The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has told CNN that removing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power is a priority, cementing an extraordinary U-turn in the Trump administration's stance on the embattled leader. ...
Before Tuesday's attack on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun, which killed 89 people, Haley had said toppling Assad was not a priority. ...
Haley said that the Trump administration's view was that a political solution would not happen with Assad in power, though she stopped short of saying Assad's departure was now official US policy.

Semi-fakenews. CNN wants the viewer to take away that Trump has "regime change" in mind for Syria, ala GWB's "regime change" in Iraq.

There’s yer dam eleven Larri.

I wonder if this subject makes it to the Sunday morning propaganda shows ...

U.S. Navy sends strike group toward Korean peninsula - WaPo

During a 20-minute phone call Saturday, Trump told South Korea's acting president, Hwang Kyo-ahn, that he had "in-depth discussions about North Korea's serious nuclear problems and how to respond to them" during his summit meeting with Xi Jinping last week, according to the South Korean leader's office.

Great news folks!

We have that ole hoss and early technology boss ROSS PEROT keeping count of the threads today...

You won’t find him on ANY other thread in Free Republic!

Good morning, Ross!

Yup. The USS Carl Vinson.

And just three weeks ago the NORKS threatened to blow her up.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/watch-north-korea-blow-up-a-us-warship-and-a-bomber-in-propaganda-video-2017-03-21

Well now the NORKS may want to take back those words!

To the Men of CVN-70, “Get Some!”

Tulsi Gabbard’s anti-interventionist position on Syria - sounds like 2016-Trump (focus only on defeating ISIS): https://www.votetulsi.com/node/25114

Obviously, either the Russians or Norks are responsible for this ...

Hacker sets off all 156 emergency sirens in Dallas - USA Toady (typo intentional)

The surprising piece was how fast Trump’s enemies lined up to cheer the attack.

This is deeply troubling.

Problem with Syria is that it is basically a no-win situation like so much of the mid-east is.

Some websites are reporting that the COD's on some of the children were not poisonous gas.They appear to have been beaten, choked, suffocated,etc accd. to autopsy reports.

By the way those handling the bodies of the deceased children were wearing very little in the way of protective gear for a Sarin attack,just a little sidelight.

Also, there are varying reports of damage assessments. That being said, and there is a heck of a lot more to be said,there is no question that Pres. Trump acted on the info he had at the time and was undoubtedly responding to the deaths of innocent children caught in the middle of a sectarian war that will never end.As usual he did the right thing and that always takes guts.

Meanwhile, the jury is still out on the role that the brokeback boys McCain and Graham may or may not have played in this fiasco.

LC has some very interesting takes on the whole situation:its here:

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2017/04/ivankas-war.html

Hard to say what is real anymore.

It pays to remember that Assad has squeezed out a minority ruling force, the Alawites/Shia in Syria to rule over the Syrian majority which is Sunni and is in many mid eastern countries.

He does it with an iron hand no doubt but it pays to remember that ISIS/ISIL the CIA created terror types are the sworn enemy of shia/alawites. So who is who in the mid-east continues to vassilate from day to day.

The mid-east has always been a great place to stay the hell out of,IMHO. When you don't know who the players are how do you ever win?

One sidelight of the bombing is that the DNC will now need a new talking point.The Trump is best buddies with Putin line will no longer win the 2018 elections for them. Nor will it yield a special prosecutor that could have kept the BS line alive until the elections took over.

Sorry lyin dems you will need a new chatting point lie to replace the old one.

Also,unfortunately it takes lyin' Susan Rice off the front pages as well. But, best guesses are she will be sitting on several phone books to testify before Gowdy and maybe the Senate as well before it's all over.