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Has anyone ever followed up on Affirmative Action college applicants that are given preference, to see if they actually complete college? Do they end up with successful careers? Do they then mentor others in similar situations to help them succeed, or do they pull up the ladder behind themselves?

I’m curious. So much of the CR@P that the Socialists push never gets looked at again to see if it actually helps or harms.


10 posted on 04/08/2017 7:51:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

[S]tudents with credentials more than one standard deviation below their science peers at college are about half as likely to end up with science bachelor degrees, compared with similar students attending schools where their credentials are much closer to, or above, the mean credentials of their peers.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/02/how-affirmative-action-at-colleges-hurts-minority-students/

At the University of Texas, whose racial preference programs come before the Supreme Court for oral argument on October 10, the typical black student receiving a race preference placed at the 52nd percentile of the SAT; the typical white was at the 89th percentile. In other words, Texas is putting blacks who score at the middle of the college-aspiring population in the midst of highly competitive students. This is the sort of academic gap where mismatch flourishes. And, of course, mismatch does not occur merely with racial preferences; it shows up with large preferences of all types.

Research on the mismatch problem was almost non-existent until the mid-1990s; it has developed rapidly in the past half-dozen years, especially among labor economists. To cite just a few examples of the findings:

Black college freshmen are more likely to aspire to science or engineering careers than are white freshmen, but mismatch causes blacks to abandon these fields at twice the rate of whites.
Blacks who start college interested in pursuing a doctorate and an academic career are twice as likely to be derailed from this path if they attend a school where they are mismatched.
About half of black college students rank in the bottom 20 percent of their classes (and the bottom 10 percent in law school).
Black law school graduates are four times as likely to fail bar exams as are whites; mismatch explains half of this gap.
Interracial friendships are more likely to form among students with relatively similar levels of academic preparation; thus, blacks and Hispanics are more socially integrated on campuses where they are less academically mismatched.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful-truth-about-affirmative-action/263122/


17 posted on 04/08/2017 8:05:39 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Dr. Thomas Sowell had often written about studies that have shown that Blacks admitted to competitive colleges, because of affirmative action, often flunk out because they can’t keep up with the competition. They would have been much better served if they had gone to a second-tier college, where they could have graduated. A recent book, entitled “Mismatch” also addresses this subject. So the answer is “Yes”, there have been studies done on this subject that show that Blacks (and Latinos) are often HURT by affirmative action in college admissions policies.


23 posted on 04/08/2017 8:11:31 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Has anyone ever followed up on Affirmative Action college applicants that are given preference, to see if they actually complete college? Do they end up with successful careers?


36 posted on 04/08/2017 9:30:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

College graduation rate for blacks is 42%, versus 62% for whites

http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html

How much of even that is “affirmative graduation” due to “affirmative grading”, I don’t know.


57 posted on 04/09/2017 3:58:31 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Matriculation rate and graduation rate do not equate. Being accepted to schools where they don’t have much of a chance leads to failure and frustration. Then probably bitterness and resentment.


58 posted on 04/09/2017 4:47:26 AM PDT by all the best
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Barack Obama was President

Anita Hill made it to Washington where she learned the hard way she was not really intellectual hot stuff


60 posted on 04/09/2017 4:57:42 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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