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Jumping to conclusions; something is not adding up in Idlib chemical weapons attack
Al Masdar News ^ | 4/4/17 | Paul Antonopoulos

Posted on 04/05/2017 1:19:06 PM PDT by markomalley

At least 58 people were killed in a horrific gas attack in the Idlib Governorate this morning. However, even before investigations could be conducted and for evidence to emerge, Federica Mogherini, the Italian politician High Representative of the European Union (EU) for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, condemned the Syrian government stating that the “Assad regime bears responsibility for ‘awful’ Syria ‘chemical’ attack.”

The immediate accusation from a high ranking EU official serves a dangerous precedent where public outcry can be made even before the truth surrounding the tragedy can emerge

Israeli President, Benjamin Netanyahu, joined in on the condemnation, as did Amnesty International.

Merely hours after the alleged chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhun, supposedly by the Syrian government, holes are beginning to emerge from opposition sources, discrediting the Al-Qaeda affiliated White Helmets claims.

For one, seen in the above picture, the White Helmets are handling the corpses of people without sufficient safety gear, most particularly with the masks mostly used , as well as no gloves. Although this may seem insignificant, understanding the nature of sarin gas that the opposition claim was used, only opens questions.

Within seconds of exposure to sarin, the affects of the gas begins to target the muscle and nervous system. There is an almost immediate release of the bowels and the bladder, and vomiting is induced. When sarin is used in a concentrated area, it has the likelihood of killing thousands of people. Yet, such a dangerous gas, and the White Helmets are treating bodies with little concern to their exposed skin. This has to raise questions.

It also raises the question why a “doctor” in a hospital full of victims of sarin gas has the time to tweet and make video calls. This will probably be dismissed and forgotten however.

It is known that about 250 people from Majdal and Khattab were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists last week. Local sources have claimed that many of those dead from the chemical weapons were those from Majdal and Khattab.

This would suggest that on the eve of upcoming peace negotiations, terrorist forces have once again created a false flag scenario. This bares resemblance to the Ghouta chemical weapons attack in 2013 where the Syrian Army was accused of using the weapons of mass destruction on the day that United Nations Weapon’s Inspectors arrived in Damascus.

Later, in a separate chemical weapon usage allegation, Carla del Ponte, a UN weapons inspector said that there was no evidence that the government had committed the atrocity. This had however not stopped the calls for intervention against the Syrian government, a hope that the militant forces wished to eventuate from their use of chemical weapons against civilians in Khan-al-Assal.

Therefore, it is completely unsurprising that Orient TV has already prepared a “media campaign” to cover the Russian and Syrian airstrikes in Hama countryside against terrorist forces, with the allegations that the airforces have been using chemical weapons. And most telling, there announcement of covering the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government, hours before this allegation even emerged…….. Seems like someone forgot to tell him that it would not occur for a few more hours before his tweet.

Meanwhile, pick up trucks have been photographed around bodies of those killed. Again, it must be questioned why there are people around sarin gas without any protective gear, and not affected at all when it can begin attacking the body within seconds? Also, the pick up trucks remain consistent to what local sources have said that many of those dead were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists from pro-government towns in rural Hama.

Also, what is brought into question is where the location of the hose is coming from in the below picture, a dugout carved into the rock. This also suggests that the location is at a White Helmets base where there are dug out hiding spots carved into the mountainside and where they have easy access to equipment, as highlighted by Twitter user Ian Grant.

In response to the allegations, the Syrian Arab Army soldiers in northern Hama denied the use of chemicals weapons today. This is consistent with the Russian Ministry of Defense who denied any involvement in the attack.

The army “has not and does not use them, not in the past and not in the future, because it does not have them in the first place,” a military source said.

And this of course begs the question. With the Syrian Army and its allies in a comfortable position in Syria, making advances across the country, and recovering lost points in rural Hama, why would they now resort to using chemical weapons? It is a very simple question with no clear answer. It defies any logic that on the eve of a Syria conference in Brussels and a week before peace negotiations are to resume, that the Syrian government would blatantly use chemical weapons. All evidence suggests this is another false chemical attack allegation made against the government as seen in the Khan-al-Assal 2013 attack where the terrorist groups hoped that former President Obama’s “red-line” would be crossed leading to US-intervention in Syria against the government.

Most telling however, is that most recent report shows that the government does not deny striking Khan Sheikhun. Al-Masdar’s Yusha Yuseef was informed by the Syrian Army that the air force targeted a missile factory in Khan Sheikoun, using Russian-manufactured Su-22 fighter jet to carry out the attack. Most importantly, the Su-22’s bombs are unique and cannot be filled with any chemical substances, which is different than bombs dropped from attack helicopters. Yuseef was then told that the Syrian Air Force did not know there were any chemical substances inside the missile factory in Khan Sheikhoun. It remains to be known whether there actually were chemicals in the missile factory targeted by the airstrikes, or whether the terrorist forces used gas on the kidnapped civilians from the pro-government towns and brought them in the lorry trucks to the site of the airstrikes. Whether they were gassed by the militant forces, or the airstrikes caused a chemical weapon factory to explode, the gruesome deaths of children, seen foaming in the mouth because of the gas, lays in the hands of the terrorists.

Therefore, it becomes evident that the area targeted was definitely a terrorist location, where it is known that the White Helmets share operation rooms with terrorist forces like Al-Qaeda as seen after the liberation of eastern Aleppo. Civilians and fighting forces, including Kurdish militias, have all claimed that militant groups that operate in Idlib, Hama and Aleppo countrysides, have used chemical weapons in the past. Therefore, before the war cries begin and the denouncement of the government from high officials in power positions begin, time must be given so that all evidence can emerge. However, this is an important factor that has never existed in the Syrian War, and the terrorist forces continue to hope that Western-intervention against the government will occur, at the cost of the lives of innocent civilians.


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Don't know if this is legit or not, but even the possibility adds an element of complexity. I originally heard about this via this tweet:

Posting this because this chem attack may be more than what it appears.

1 posted on 04/05/2017 1:19:06 PM PDT by markomalley
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Also of interest (and a reminder):


2 posted on 04/05/2017 1:20:43 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

President Donald Trump: “These heinous actions by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated,”


3 posted on 04/05/2017 1:23:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
President Donald Trump: “These heinous actions by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated,”

Understood. But who is feeding him this information?

4 posted on 04/05/2017 1:24:20 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

I think Russia is the closest to the truth on this.

Syrian REBELS (read ISIS) were bombed, and THEIR chemical weapons might have released.

If there were actually chemical weapons.

It makes absolutely no sense for Assad to use them now, on a hospital full of kids.

These photos look STAGED


5 posted on 04/05/2017 1:24:50 PM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: markomalley

That pic with bodies looks staged......................


6 posted on 04/05/2017 1:26:05 PM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: markomalley

The terrorists in the white “rescue” helmets were on scene.

That’s always a cause for suspicion.


7 posted on 04/05/2017 1:27:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: markomalley

More bs propaganda.

Hat tip to moonofalabama: 2. Al-Qaeda in Syria and its subordinate “moderate rebels” are being defeated in their last big attack on Hama governate. The Russian defense ministry said that more than 2,000 Jihadis had been killed during the failed attack. Another attack on Latakia was stopped cold by massive Russian air strikes on the staging areas. Al-Qaeda’s back yard in Idleb is under constant air interdiction.

The usual response when under such pressure are incidents of “chemical attacks” “on civilians”. Such is claimed today in Khan Sheikhoun. The video footage, taken (when?) in a White Helmets base, shows “rescuers” spraying water on people who are claimed to have been effected by Sarin. If this were a real chemical incident involving Sarin or similar stuff these unprotected, unprofessional “rescuers” would be heavily effected if not dead.

Conveniently this incident also happens just two days before another international conference on Syria. The heavy media attention is likely the starting shot of a new campaign of CIA support for al-Qaeda in Idleb and a second leg of Turkey’s invasion of Syria.


8 posted on 04/05/2017 1:28:56 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If Trump’s intelligence agencies are feeding him this “information”, I question their competence. I hope Trump doesn’t turn out to be EASILY manipulated & misled by the various neo-cons surrounding him now.


9 posted on 04/05/2017 1:29:22 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: markomalley

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/849694048327782401


10 posted on 04/05/2017 1:29:24 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: Mr. K

They do look staged. Look at the pictures of the Kurds who were attacked by Saddam. Very, very different.


11 posted on 04/05/2017 1:31:40 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: markomalley

Trump is falling for it. And he has far too many Obamaites at high levels in his intel and military world. Glad we had an election so Jaime Gorelick can still be around.


12 posted on 04/05/2017 1:31:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: House Atreides

“If Trump’s intelligence agencies are feeding him this “information”, I question their competence.”

Competence? I question their motives and honesty.


13 posted on 04/05/2017 1:33:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: markomalley

straight out of the terrorist playbook.

14 posted on 04/05/2017 1:35:27 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: markomalley

Just as a though exercise, can you think of a time the US government has been honest with the American people about any of our foreign policy adventures? Even -one- that was exactly what we were told it was?


15 posted on 04/05/2017 1:35:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: markomalley
I posted the following information earlier today: "The UK's foreign secretary [who wasn't there], a rebel [Read: ISIS] commander and a weapons expert all said evidence pointed to an attack by the Syrian government, Russia's ally." "The very same thing occurred in Sarajevo in 1994. Although initial media reports attributed the shelling to Serbian forces, crater analysis done by a team of TURKISH artillery officers assigned to UNPROFOR concluded that ONLY the Muslim forces could have shelled that area of the marketplace; Serbian shells would have had to pass through buildings to shell the marketplace. Contrary to popular belief, the Muslim forces under Alija Izetbegović, the Bosnian Muslim leader, shelled the Markale marketplace in Sarajevo, killing 60-some people and wounding about 150. Izetbegović was appealing to the West for arms at the time, but the combined Indian, Swedish and French leadership of UNPROFOR chose to ignore the crater analysis and endorsed media reports." I neglected to point out the fact that a large contingent on international "journalists" was scheduled to visit Sarajevo the very next day...
16 posted on 04/05/2017 1:35:53 PM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Red Badger

“That pic with bodies looks staged............”
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It does indeed. If you look at aftermath photos of a real gas attack (think Saddam Hussein’s gassing of Kurd villages), the bodies of the dead are not spread around neatly lying on their backs. The dead are found in all sorts of grotesque positions.

I pray that Trump has more wisdom than to accept this false flag or hoax operation. I hope he’s smarter and less gullible than some of our own FReepers.


17 posted on 04/05/2017 1:37:16 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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NYT and NYDN full front page cover of the atrocity...


18 posted on 04/05/2017 1:45:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: markomalley

BBC keeps showing video of children in a hospital or something they call a hospital


19 posted on 04/05/2017 1:46:07 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Gene Eric

All the other western powers and Israel believe it is real.
If there is an error, it is not just Trump Administration.


20 posted on 04/05/2017 1:47:13 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! HE KILLED OBAMACARE REPEAL AND WILL KILL TAX REFORM!!)
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