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Chris Christie to lead Trump White House drug commission
WaPo ^ | 3/29/17 | Philip Rucker

Posted on 03/29/2017 12:31:08 PM PDT by ColdOne

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To: sargon

But if you decriminalize them the cartels would have nothing to do but more human and gun smuggling, and kidnappings.


21 posted on 03/29/2017 12:58:16 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ColdOne

Burn every GD opium field in Afghanistan for starters, and as a charitable act to show Mexico we really do care about the poor Mexicans we’re sending back and going to keep from coming by helping to save them from the animals that run Mexican drug cartels.


22 posted on 03/29/2017 12:59:15 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: sargon

“There’s too many jail cells right now filled with people serving mandatory minimums for drug offenses”

While I agree that the war on drugs has largely been a failure, I think the above statement is a red herring. The next time you see a story about some poor sap who is locked up for having a small amount of pot in his pocket, I suggest looking into his criminal background. Most likely, his ‘first’ and ‘second’ strikes will be for something more than mere possession for personal use...and likely those convictions will be on plead down charges, for a much more severe offense.

I’m sure there are exceptions, but those exceptions are rare and aren’t filling up the prisons to the point that violent offenders can’t be housed. That’s an example of two accurate statements being made...but a very inaccurate and unsubstantiated correlation being made. Sure a few people are needlessly rotting in prison due to mandatory minimums. And sure, most prisons are overcrowded. But one didn’t necessarily cause the other (I’d suspect the large illegal immigrant population in our prisons has more to do with the overcrowding).


23 posted on 03/29/2017 1:12:56 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: Lazamataz

“most of the girls I was with (when I was ‘out there’) dropped clothing the minute they got high”

An argument for my opium poppy theory.


24 posted on 03/29/2017 1:14:12 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Rusty0604
But if you decriminalize them the cartels would have nothing to do but more human and gun smuggling, and kidnappings.

The cartels should be wiped out by the Mexicans themselves. The violence they conduct in order to maintain their illicit financial operations is absolutely unspeakable.

I can't imagine what the response would be in America if such large criminal organizations committed murder—even mass murder—with such impunity.

It seems like the People themselves might rise up.

I'm just astounded by everything I read about these cartels—who are every bit as brutal as ISIS—and the way they are apparently completely intertwined with corrupt government—at all levels—in Mexico.

Ironically, one of the reasons that Mexican drug cartels are flourishing is because increased demand for heroin in the wake of crackdowns on prescription opioids.

The demand doesn't disappear, of course; it simply shifts to an alternate supplier or product—in this case, one which makes it even more risky with respect to overdoses, and also benefits organized crime.

When someone overdoses on a pharmaceutical, they really have to make a bona fide effort. It rarely happens by sheer accident, because the addict knows what they're taking.

But some stoned idiot in a back room mixing up bags of heroin—by making a tiny miscalculation or careless mistake—can cause the deaths of dozens of people by overdose in a very short period of time.

Nanny-staters can try the failed authoritarian Prohibition route for the rest of eternity, but it will never be the solution, and it will always produce unintended consequences. An "inconvenient" truth...

25 posted on 03/29/2017 1:27:16 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: lacrew
There's no doubt that, due in part having one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, we have overcrowded jails.

There's also no doubt that violent criminals are released back into society far too readily, at least in part because they can be versus someone who was sentenced under minimum mandatory guidelines, many of which exist for drug crimes.

The absurdity of minimum mandatory sentencing for non-violent crimes does mean that violent criminals are released instead of drug offenders, at least in some cases. And, to my mind, if that happens even once it's shameful.

Keeping violent offenders behind bars—as opposed to someone who possessed the wrong contraband in violation of the edicts of the State—does at least carry the small benefit of actually resembling Justice...

26 posted on 03/29/2017 1:35:19 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: ColdOne

“In a related statement, Gov. Christie said, ‘Drug dealers carrying weapons of war are the scourge of our cities. I will be working with ATF to pull the federal 4473 forms of all owners of these assault weapons, and we will be investigating them all to see if they are drug dealers.’”

~didn’t really say that, but possible, I think... Crispy Creme is an anti-self-defense governor of an anti-gun state...


27 posted on 03/29/2017 1:37:43 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: ColdOne
If our 'government' was really serious about drug abuse they would have taken out the poppy fields in the 'Stan.

But they aren't, and they didn't.

28 posted on 03/29/2017 1:38:06 PM PDT by jimbug
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To: ColdOne

Chris Christie would have been a decent president before Bridgegate. He would have won NJ, NY, CT. Trump should have won NJ. Trump should campaign for the NJ GOP. Campaign in the red areas.


29 posted on 03/29/2017 1:47:25 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: ColdOne

Will he resign as N.J. Governor? Could he close down bridges to stop drug trafficking?


30 posted on 03/29/2017 1:50:49 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: ColdOne

Bill Bennett told us we’d be Drug Free by the Year 2000. Maybe he was using a different calendar.


31 posted on 03/29/2017 1:52:56 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: sargon

Exactly.


32 posted on 03/29/2017 1:55:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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33 posted on 03/29/2017 2:00:52 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Wolfie

or drugs...


34 posted on 03/29/2017 2:51:14 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Is this the old loft with the paint pealng off it?)
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To: ColdOne
I watched the entire meeting on Fox Business channel this morning.

Very moving and even the Fox anchors, including Cavuto, said they had never seen anything like.

Very moving testimony from survivors and families of drug destruction.

Strangely much of the opiod addiction begins innocently with a doctor's prescription for Oxycontin, Percodan, Hydrocodone, etc.

Much of the drugs sold after prescription addiction sets in are manufactured in Mexico and brought in across our Southern border.

Let's hope Christie follows through and actually does some good.

35 posted on 03/29/2017 3:00:05 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: ColdOne
I watched the entire meeting on Fox Business channel this morning.

Very moving and even the Fox anchors, including Cavuto, said they had never seen anything like it.

Very moving testimony from survivors and families of drug destruction.

Strangely much of the opiod addiction begins innocently with a doctor's prescription for Oxycontin, Percodan, Hydrocodone, etc.

Much of the drugs sold after prescription addiction sets in are manufactured in Mexico and brought in across our Southern border.

Let's hope Christie follows through and actually does some good.

36 posted on 03/29/2017 3:01:37 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Wolfie
Bill Bennett told us we’d be Drug Free by the Year 2000.

I'd have told him don't bet on it.

37 posted on 03/29/2017 3:42:26 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Brian Griffin

And you base that claim on what?


38 posted on 03/30/2017 3:50:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: angcat

But apparently not an expert on dealing with drug addiction, at least at the state level:

http://www.njtvonline.org/addiction/


39 posted on 03/30/2017 3:52:29 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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