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Who Killed the Iceman? Clues Emerge in a Very Cold Case
New Yor Times ^ | March 27, 2017 | Rod Nordland

Posted on 03/27/2017 7:55:08 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

Mrs. Iceman’s boyfriend?


41 posted on 03/28/2017 3:43:06 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Pharmboy
The yellow snow will getcha every time


42 posted on 03/28/2017 3:47:54 AM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: cpdiii
Actually killed out and bred out out. Their genes are still in us today. The real question is why the Neanderthals of huge superior strength did not become the dominate species of man.

It's a fascinating question. I suggest that the difference was tool-making ability and the ability to adapt new tools like the throwing spear and the bow for killing game at a distance.

I'll throw in another related factor -- the domestication of dogs. If a band of modern humans enters your Neanderthal clan's area with a pack of hunting dogs it won't be long before 1) all the game is pushed out or taken & 2) your little cave hide-out is discovered and you are killed, captured.

43 posted on 03/28/2017 3:49:07 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Pharmboy

I believe it was Goose that got killed, not the Iceman.


44 posted on 03/28/2017 3:51:50 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Pharmboy

I still say it was the butler, in the library, with the candlestick. He then dragged him up into the Alps and stuck an arrow in his back.


45 posted on 03/28/2017 4:12:58 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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Following Ötzi's journey is fascinating and thanks for posting this.
I have my own theories - spreading, or rather arranging precious possessions round about one, when 10000 feet up in an alpine pass, is not regular behaviour IMHO - but enough of that!
The Inspector is wrong to suggest Ötzi’s last meal was cooked. The latest evidence 3rd Bolzano Mummy Congress indicates the meat was never heated i.e. it was dried or simply raw.

For those interested, I understand there is an Ötzi exhibition coming to North America this year: MuseumsPartner - The Iceman
46 posted on 03/28/2017 4:17:30 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: bigbob

That might be the right guy - look at those tiny hands.


47 posted on 03/28/2017 5:28:08 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: cpdiii
The real question is why the Neanderthals of huge superior strength did not become the dominate species of man.

For the same reason that gorillas, which are much stronger than man, do not dominate us. We are smarter.

48 posted on 03/28/2017 5:28:22 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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I read a book about him years ago. He was a big, bad, strong dude!


49 posted on 03/28/2017 7:26:57 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The first amendment does NOT legalize the right to riot.)
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To: Pharmboy

Fascinating—thanks!


50 posted on 03/28/2017 9:53:42 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: IamConservative

You are right, it seems. Iceman just chickened out.


51 posted on 03/28/2017 10:48:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Pharmboy
...the Neanderthals had been gone for about 22,000 years when this drama played out.

Maybe, maybe not. The Almas of the Caucasus may well be the few survivors of that race.

52 posted on 03/28/2017 11:47:37 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: matthew fuller

..”I read a book about him years ago. He was a big, bad, strong dude!”...

Still is a dangerous “dude” to this nation and people. He’s working with Holder and all the other Mayors and Judges they’ve stacked the system with to support their base voters (illegals)of which without they have no voters.

The idea now is to ‘swamp the courts’...fighting this administration by ‘putting it in a legal choke hold’... Lawyers and Judges are now in charge as the Demorat traitors have the courts stockpiled in the system as well as the Mexican Gov.

Meanwhile sanctuary cities are their bases with Obama based in Washington ...leading the charge..and the clinton machinery still swinging their bats.


53 posted on 03/28/2017 12:09:54 PM PDT by caww
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I just read the periphery. Must be similar to the story of a 1000 year dead guy in Switzerland.


54 posted on 03/28/2017 1:56:50 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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The riddle of the Snows of Kilimanjaro: “What was the dead leopard looking for at the altitude or 19,500 feet” Ernest Hemingway


55 posted on 03/28/2017 2:01:14 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: chaosagent

I checked the article. OK, Italy, not Switzerland. Read it ten years ago. I remember what I read. here is the link for you to the original story in National Geographic.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/07/iceman/hall-text


56 posted on 03/28/2017 2:02:15 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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I suggest that the difference was tool-making ability and the ability to adapt new tools like the throwing spear and the bow for killing game at a distance.

My theory is that some change in our genes made us able to organize larger social units than Neanderthals. Instead of being small family oriented bands, our ancestors formed tribes of fifty or more and perhaps hundreds. This lead to institutional aggression, where the motive to kill Neanderthals was not based on competition for resources in one particular area, but rather an "Us against Them" mindset. In small units, Neaderthals couldn't be bothered conducting genocide, while we, with our proto-armies and large tribe xenophobia, were well suited for it.

57 posted on 03/28/2017 3:26:39 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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