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To: davikkm

Repeal ain’t happening.

You have two choices.

Support RyanCare with the hope that little by little things can be done
to improve it as time goes on.

Or fail to pass RyanCare and Full Blown Obamacare is here to stay.

That IS the reality of this vote.


5 posted on 03/24/2017 4:45:42 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: tennmountainman

Another New World Order pimp checks in.

You left out a choice, ObamaCare collapeses and even Democrats, that’s youb will vote to repeal.


8 posted on 03/24/2017 4:48:49 AM PDT by stockpirate (FIRE ALL OBAMA & BUSH APPOINTEES NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: tennmountainman

I hate being given with choices to choose. Ryan plan sucks. It will undermine Trump presidency. Trump should continue to negotiate with Rand Paul. No plan better than another bad plan. or let Obamacare implode itself.


9 posted on 03/24/2017 4:49:07 AM PDT by davikkm
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To: tennmountainman

Just an observation, but if this goes down and there is no replacement....I think the Democrats will be kinda shocked and bewildered.

The ObamaCare package is losing participants every single year....cost issues are the dynamic at work. If you go for some top policy...family with three kids...you could be looking at $14,000 a year on payments, and $5,000 on the deductible. Who wants to pay $19,000 a year?

If this fails...then we are locked in and face some moment where the general pubic will be angry at both the GOP and the Democrats. Neither can fix this, and the only legit way out is single-payer. At best...it’s six to eight years away from being forced onto everyone. Trump is simply forcing the GOP bigwigs who hyped up their dream deal five years ago to admit it won’t pass.


12 posted on 03/24/2017 4:52:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: tennmountainman

Let Ocommiecare die on the vine and hang the left with it. Ryancommiecare is no better and will guarantee a Republican loss in 2018.


18 posted on 03/24/2017 4:59:20 AM PDT by cp124 (The media and the left do not want America to be great.)
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To: tennmountainman

Then let the failure of Obamacare stay in place. This healthcare bill from trump tower will eventually punish every working class veteran. They had a perfect 50 state bill a couple of years ago.. why not repeal? The house has repealed it dozens of times. No, to this deal.


26 posted on 03/24/2017 5:14:23 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: tennmountainman

> That IS the reality of this vote.
And there’s more too it

* give Trump a win on his first congressional battle. Keep the feeling that he gets things done, negotiates, is a winner.

or

* give Trump a loss. Let companies, foreign governments, markets, etc. lose some hope that he can get DC to work and can fix all sorts of other problems (taxes, immigration, budget/defense spending,...). Let everyone know that Congress is in charge and not Trump for things that need legislation and it’s impossible to MAGA with the current swamp in Congress that Trump is unable to drain.


28 posted on 03/24/2017 5:15:24 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: tennmountainman

From what I understand this monstrosity cannot simply be repealed. But it can still be gutted considerably. Is that correct?


37 posted on 03/24/2017 5:29:21 AM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: tennmountainman

From what I understand this monstrosity cannot simply be repealed. But it can still be gutted considerably. Is that correct?


38 posted on 03/24/2017 5:29:28 AM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: tennmountainman

Pass it.. republicans own the failure
Fail it.. Democrats own the failure

I suggest we allow the democrats to own it. Republicans where sent to repeal it. Not put lip stick on a pig.


44 posted on 03/24/2017 5:42:34 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: tennmountainman

Let’s give it its proper name. Trump-Ryan care or Ryan-Trump care. Both of those guys have their fingerprints all over this.


46 posted on 03/24/2017 5:45:38 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: tennmountainman

Or fail to pass RyanCare and Full Blown Obamacare is here to stay.


I think you mean, “here until it collapses”.

And that won’t be long. Frankly, I think it would be fun to watch.

For me, the only option, EVER, was repeal, followed by some deregulation that improved the private health care industry and health care insurance industry.


55 posted on 03/24/2017 5:53:19 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: tennmountainman

The administration is putting pressure on conservatives to pass a semi-socialist replacement. It should be putting pressure on Democrats to pass a free-market replacement. Tells you everything you need to know about who this administration is, sadly. I had hopes for Trump but they’re rapidly fading.


57 posted on 03/24/2017 5:53:58 AM PDT by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: tennmountainman

Third choice:
End the mandate, end the funding, end the insane restrictions on health coverage, and let Obamacare implode & let the market offer what people want.

NO REPLACEMENT.


85 posted on 03/24/2017 6:32:57 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: tennmountainman
Sadly you're wasting your time.

The kamikaze attacks will continue until we are out of planes.

94 posted on 03/24/2017 6:52:40 AM PDT by Pietro
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