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Obama Takes Victory Lap On 'Stable' Obamacare
wnd.com ^ | March 24

Posted on 03/23/2017 10:31:23 PM PDT by Helicondelta

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To: Helicondelta

Has he bought into the Ryanists’ belief that their sh*t doesn’t stink?


21 posted on 03/24/2017 1:17:42 AM PDT by Ingtar (.)
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To: Organic Panic

No, it will collapse.


22 posted on 03/24/2017 1:55:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Rashputin
What is needed is to oust Ryan. Unless they do that, we can only conclude one thing. That is that all those campaign promises were lies, and Ryan was chosen AGAIN to be a firewall against having to fulfill them.

How else can it be explained that Ryan was chosen for a second time to be Speaker?

23 posted on 03/24/2017 2:19:32 AM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: grania
How else can it be explained that Ryan was chosen for a second time to be Speaker?

There are still many Republicans who are privately very close to their Democrat cousins in ideology.

Remembering the recent campaign, if these so called "Republican Representatives" were honest, Obamacare would be over. But, honesty is a word which means very little to these swamp inhabitants.

24 posted on 03/24/2017 3:20:09 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Helicondelta

Yeah, about as “stable” as the blood sugar of a 300lb. Medicaid recipient after devouring a box of glazed donuts purchased with an EBT card.


25 posted on 03/24/2017 3:43:34 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: Rational Thought
...a word means very little to these swamp inhabitants

Throughout the campaign and on, I've described it this way. Voters are really fed up, and much more informed than the arrogant SOBs who manipulate us realize. What voters did in November is give the DC slime a lot of rope, total control, no excuses. They could either use that rope to hang themselves or as a lifeline. They chose. All they had to do is pass again one of those over 50 bills they sent to Obama when they knew it would be vetoed.

The nation cannot be saved if those who got elected as Republicans continue to backstab the agenda on which they campaigned. President Trump is doing the correct thing saying "enough". Part of being a great negotiator is knowing when to walk away, and mean it.

26 posted on 03/24/2017 3:46:38 AM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: grania
"How else can it be explained that Ryan was chosen for a second time to be Speaker?"

I see your point and understand how you come to it but I also see the fact that everyone in Congress, no matter where they stand on anything else, knows damn well they can't continue with a trillion dollars a year in additional debt. They also all know the gravy train is off the track, that someone is going to have to be the sacrificial lamb that takes it in the neck and has no future prospects because they did whatever it took to stop the bleeding of cash.

It's all well and good to say tax cuts will generate enough revenue to keep the hard decisions to a minimum, but no one wants their gravy train on a siding for the next few years to see that take effect. Whoever is in charge when those trains are forced to wait on sidings isn't going to have the bright future come what may most Congress critters do. How many people do you think made getting there their main goal in life did so for any reason other than to have it made in the shade from then on? One in twenty? Fifty? A hundred? Different people have different estimates. Mine is one in fifty with another one in fifty who might care about something other than feathering their own nest from time to time if it gets them the right kind of praise. There are also a few who had a solid career before going to DC and went because they thought they could actually help change things after Reagan and Gingrich beat on the machine.

There are a lot of things at work but no one, at least anyone who currently is what they call a national figure, wants to be Speaker. Someone new is going to have to emerge and it will be someone who is on the Trump Train that doesn't give a damn about their nest and the games. They're few and far between, but they do exist and Trump has a big edge because he can make things quite comfortable for folks after they leave office if they fight along side him. They'd have to work, it wouldn't be a no show job, but it would be easy enough and they'd be comfortable. Don't forget that Trump's kids are out there to look over things when their old man is gone, too, so there's continuity just like with endowed foundations and so on.

I know what you're saying, but it's like people writing off Sessions when it's far, far, too early to do that. Sessions knows criminal law and the way it all actually works. First he has to find a few dozen people he is sure he can trust. If he started looking last summer, it would still be a few more months from now before he was 80% sure they were stalwart and not going to be swayed by the huge sums of money now sloshing around the anti-Trump lobbying effort. They may have been solid last year, but after a few threats and with ten times as much money waved under their nose, they may no longer be.

Then, with trustworthy people, he can build cases. That starts with having pairs of chestnuts roasting on an open fire until one or more of those pairs crack. And it's usually the chestnuts from the little people that crack and lead to the big people. He's also got to have help from the only law enforcement organization that will stand by Trump which, as far as I can tell, is the NYPD, plus in DC ICE and a faction at the DEA. Everything in DC is under Homeland Security, though, so it's hard for any organized effort to help Trump because every move is known to the Deep State anti-Trump people by virtue of organizational design.

No one of any significance at Justice will help, very, very, few people in the FBI will help (mostly people out in the field away from DC where they're needed), and only a small faction of whistle blowers hidden within the NSA and CIA will help. What does that leave for him to have working cases when you consider the fact that in America today, the vast majority of the population figure honesty is one thing, but looking the other way to keep your family safe, warm, and comfortable within the DC bubble is another, better, thing?

You have a deformed, worn down, mostly reprogrammed, set of bureaucratic robots, who carry out what Sessions or anyone else tries to do. Finding working components to put together into another little cluster of robots takes time, more in the Congress than in the Executive branch so what Trump can do, he'll do and he won't give up on the other things. He'll let them simmer. Same with Sessions, same with the few honest people in the Congress, same with the honest people in the alphabet soup of agencies run by the bureaucrats with appointed people only around to say soothing things to the unwashed masses.

Like I say, I know how you come to your conclusion, but I also know a lot about how Washington does and doesn't work. I describe the problems Session has because that's easier to understand than the mess that's grown up in the Executive branch. It's a horror show, really, half or more of which was only created to provide lifetime jobs as payback to loyalists (from both parties) who don't much give a damn who is the President they're supposed to serve. Trump is being smart, much smarter than people realize. Will he succeed? Hard to say but he won't give up and he doesn't care if he breaks the whole machine which is the only way anyone could succeed.

JMHo, and we all know everyone has one so take it for whatever you think it's worth.

Regards

27 posted on 03/24/2017 3:47:34 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Helicondelta

Like all communists day is night.


28 posted on 03/24/2017 4:02:17 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Helicondelta

The little bastard needs to be beat with small bats


29 posted on 03/24/2017 4:36:04 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Helicondelta

If the vote today does not work, then Obamacare should be voided in total with no replacement.


30 posted on 03/24/2017 4:42:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Helicondelta

About as stable as Fukushima.


31 posted on 03/24/2017 4:42:32 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: jazminerose

Supposedly, he is.

Where is Michelle? Where are 25 teens from DC missing since February 1?

Why have we not seen Sasha since before the election?

Why did Hillary send billions to Qatar?

Why isn’t Weiner testifying on Capitol Hill?

Questions the media is not pondering today.


32 posted on 03/24/2017 5:29:16 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: rwoodward
The best way to repeal it is to put everyone on it! Including Obama!

Who was it that said the best way to get rid of a bad law was to apply it strictly? Lincoln?

33 posted on 03/24/2017 5:34:43 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Helicondelta
A full repeal would be DOA in this congress.

Yup. I say let's take our half-a-loaf and then get to work firing some RINOs so we can improve upon it.


34 posted on 03/24/2017 6:08:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Helicondelta

Remind me as to why anyone would believe anything this chronic liar, criminal and faux president would say about anything. What a failure and putz.


35 posted on 03/24/2017 8:08:26 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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