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BREAKING: House Considering Last-Minute, Regulation-Repealing Changes to AHCA?
Townhall.com ^ | March 22, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 03/22/2017 6:10:56 PM PDT by jazusamo

BREAKING: House Considering Last-Minute, Regulation-Repealing Changes to AHCA?

It's floor vote eve, and many creatures are stirring in the House. In a potentially dramatic eleventh-hour gambit, Republicans are considering pushing further than they initially thought possible to repeal additional Obamacare regulations within the American Health Care Act (AHCA). Remember, part of the reason that the current bill does not attempt to tackle certain issues is that under "reconciliation," all provisions must be germane to the budget. That's why buying insurance across state lines and tort reform aren't included, for example. For this same reason, unraveling some of Obamacare's "essential health benefit" regulatory mandates was seen as beyond the scope of Senate rules, and therefore relegated to phases two and three of the overall 'repeal and replace' strategy. But Utah Sen. Mike Lee tells the Washington Examiner's Philip Klein that the Senate Parliamentarian -- the official responsible for making the relevant determinations about various provisions' acceptability under the rules -- informed him that regulatory repeal would not necessarily be out of order :

Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, said on Wednesday that the Senate parliamentarian has told him that it may be possible for Republicans to push harder on repealing Obamacare's regulations than the current House bill, which contradicts the assertion by House leadership that the legislation goes after Obamacare as aggressively as possible under Senate rules. "What I understood her to be saying is that there's no reason why an Obamacare repeal bill necessarily could not have provisions repealing the health insurance regulations," Lee said in an interview with the Washington Examiner, relating a conversation with parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough about reconciliation he had on Tuesday...

Conservatives such as Lee have argued that Republicans should fight harder to argue that the regulations, which have a clear budgetary impact, can be passed through reconciliation. But House leadership and supporters of the bill have countered that the legislation already goes as far as possible. House Speaker Paul Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong, when asked about this by the Washington Examiner last week, said "We've worked closely with the Senate to carefully craft the bill to repeal and replace the law to the full extent allowed under the rules." But having met with the parliamentarian, who plays a key role in advising the presiding officer of the Senate over what's in bounds during reconciliation, Lee is more convinced than ever that this is not true.

Klein cautions that this isn't an indication that such changes would be permissible; only that they are not automatically out of bounds, depending on how they are written and presented. As a result of this new information (more on that in a moment), House leaders say they're open to amending the legislation further to strip out additional regulations that they previously thought could not pass procedural muster. If this happens, the House Freedom Caucus could be brought on board after all. Also via the Examiner:

Previously, House leaders have argued that the regulations could not be nixed, because doing so would blow up the bill in the Senate, where Republicans will have to pass the measure under restrictive rules to enable it to clear with a simple majority. But a House leadership aide told the Washington Examiner that on Wednesday, Republicans received new information from the Senate, indicating that axing the regulations wouldn't automatically doom the bill from being considered on an expedited basis...House Speaker Paul Ryan's office is now more open to nixing the regulations, known as "essential health benefits." Under Obamacare, all insurance policies must include ten categories of benefits, such as maternity care and preventive coverage, that make policies more comprehensive but also make it costlier for individuals who would prefer cheaper plans with fewer benefits.

A few thoughts: (1) How could Republicans just now be learning this? Either they didn't do their homework, which would be an astonishing dereliction, or this is a real procedural stretch. My suspicion is that the latter is the case, but even if that's so, it's still certainly worth exploring. (2) That House leaders are potentially moving in this direction tells me that President Trump and Speaker Ryan aren't confident that they have the requisite head count for tomorrow's scheduled floor vote. (3) Based on multiple conversations with top House sources in recent weeks, I can report that they really believed they were already pushing the edges of what they could accomplish within the Senate rules with the existing AHCA. Perhaps as a sop to Lee and House conservatives, they're willing to tack on these additional changes to get the legislation through the House with relative ease, then really buckle down with the parliamentarian to make sure that the legislation isn't ruled out of order on the Senate side. This very well may require stripping these new provisions back out, in addition to a host of anticipated amendments during the Senate process.

As such, if pushing as far as conceivably possible under the reconciliation framework on the House side won't endanger the success of the overall bill, why not go for it -- especially with this new, vague guidance from the parliamentarian? If the rule-enforcer reviews the changes as decides they're not kosher, fine. Take them out for the sake of saving the bill. But give it a shot. Repealing a number of Obamacare's 'mandatory minimum coverage' regulations through the legislative process, as opposed to through executive actions by the HHS Secretary ("phase two"), would almost certainly help reduce premiums even further. (4) If these non-trivial adjustments are being made tonight and tomorrow, wouldn't that render the forthcoming new CBO score of the bill basically useless? And if CBO needs to review yet another major iteration of the legislation, how can tomorrow's floor vote proceed on schedule? (5) How will the GOP moderates -- remember them? -- feel about all of this?

Urgent: Big meeting among House GOP moderates in the leadership suite right now on



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; ahca; cluster; obamacare; repealandreplace; ryaniscorrupt; speakerryan
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1 posted on 03/22/2017 6:10:56 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

THIS IS NO GOOD!! We want NO SUBSIDIES!! Why should we?


2 posted on 03/22/2017 6:14:09 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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To: jazusamo

The Repulsicans are on very very thin ice.

They blow this, and even the Trumpster will not save them.

Heck, we conservatives will help man the guillotines.

And will turn the bodies and stomp the heads.

Death to RINOs.


3 posted on 03/22/2017 6:14:17 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: jazusamo

Can anyone say: half baked botch up?


4 posted on 03/22/2017 6:15:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Ace McCain, the Songbird. Nearly sank an aircraft carrier all alone, now tender midwife to ISIS.)
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To: Da Coyote

In 2018, we need to clean house...Anyone with “incumbent” by their name needs to be primaried...


5 posted on 03/22/2017 6:17:31 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: jazusamo
Interesting news. I'll repeat what I've been saying for days now:

"Phase 1" MUST include provisions that actually give people the ability to reduce their insurance premiums as soon as possible -- not at some time in the future.

Karl Rove was on Fox today ridiculing the Freedom Caucus members for insisting on this, but he's completely out to lunch and seems to be setting the GOP up for a disaster in the 2018 midterms.

6 posted on 03/22/2017 6:17:34 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: WENDLE

To help support the families of illegal aliens of course.


7 posted on 03/22/2017 6:18:11 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Da Coyote

Looks like the right hand doesn’t know what the left hands doing, a real CF.


8 posted on 03/22/2017 6:18:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jazusamo

DONT FALL FOR THIS BS!! No socialized medical care!!


9 posted on 03/22/2017 6:20:52 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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With all the last minute maneuvering and changes, the GOPe is about to repeat Nancy Pelosi’s famous dictum: You have to pass the bill to see what is in it. The rush is designed to force uninformed votes and actions based on promises and characterizations rather than careful drafting and reading of legislative language. A big mistake here will haunt America for years.
10 posted on 03/22/2017 6:21:29 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: A CA Guy

Send the Hell of their own countries!! I do not want to buy crap for illegal aliens!!


11 posted on 03/22/2017 6:23:22 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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To: Truth29

Bump!


12 posted on 03/22/2017 6:24:13 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jazusamo

“How will the GOP moderates — remember them? — feel about all of this?”

“Remember them?”. How could we forget? At least 2/3rds of the GOP are moderates or left/moderate.


13 posted on 03/22/2017 6:25:04 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: jazusamo

I have been thinking all along that both sides are waiting to see who blinks first. I will exclude President Trump from this as I believe he would gladly sign better bill with the new amendments. IMHO if it does not look like it will pass in the House the bill needs to be pulled.


14 posted on 03/22/2017 6:25:19 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: JBW1949
In 2018, we need to clean house...Anyone with “incumbent” by their name needs to be primaried...

As much as it pains me to say this, the President is all over this - not just Paul Ryan and friends. He should have kept his hands clean - he hasn't.

15 posted on 03/22/2017 6:25:34 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Karl Rove was on Fox today ridiculing the Freedom Caucus members for insisting on this,”

Karl Rove is the epitome of the establishment and what is wrong with Washington.


16 posted on 03/22/2017 6:26:55 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Alberta's Child

“”Phase 1” MUST include provisions that actually give people the ability to reduce their insurance premiums as soon as possible — not at some time in the future.”

Exactly.


17 posted on 03/22/2017 6:27:08 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: jazusamo

ANYTHING they put in or take out of obamacare, will affect the budget. Allowing people to get insurance from anywhere in the country, will affect federal funding given to states. So will getting rid of some of the EHB’s. That will decrease the budget amount needed. Paul Ryan is a snake.


18 posted on 03/22/2017 6:27:19 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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Regulation removal is fine and dandy, how about all those federal agencies created by Obamacare that make all those regulations?

Remove them too.


19 posted on 03/22/2017 6:27:29 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Alberta's Child

Karl Rove is a Cheap Labor Express operative.
His advise is always suspect.


20 posted on 03/22/2017 6:30:09 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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