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To: dp0622
Why do they feel such a strong need to spy so much on America?

I don't know. Probably several reasons. Some not very pretty. That 60 art students was partly about smuggling Ecstasy into America via Florida. Why would our friend want to do anything detrimental to our country and people?

Or is it just as much as every country spies on every other country?

Not all countries have the means with technology, trusted agents, networks already established. I've concluded that there is an element, don't know what percent, that do not have our best interest at heart; no, they want to take us down but I don't know why. And we take the prize on spying; we are the only country that has a grid of eyes in the sky transmitting information and countless feet on the ground (as you know).

We will never get rid of them now, meaning spies in general. They will just re-emerge as something else.

I was shocked when I read this, and it does come from a site that could be said has an anti-Semitic bias. But the FBI report is genuine, I believe, heavily redacted. You can download the 6 parts at the link. On second thought, maybe you should exercise care as who knows what I may have introduced that could be lurking in my system from that? Now I'm sounding a little paranoid. Still I think you should be careful but the only way to get one from the FBI is FOIA and who wants to do that? A professional would check against one obtained from the source though. The following quote (I don't want to plow through it all again) is from about the 3rd part: I checked a lot of what they say at that site with the report and what was known from the news.

"The FBI presence at the Urban Moving Systems search site drew the attention of the local media and was later reported on both television and in the local press. A former Urban Moving Systems employee later contacted the Newark Division with information indicating that he had quit his employment with Urban Moving Systems due to high amount of anti-American sentiment present among Urban's employees. The former employee stated that an Israeli employee of Urban had even once remarked, 'Give us twenty (20) years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country.'"

There's a lot more about Urban Moving trucks on 911. One or two headed on the MA turnpike spotted south of Boston and one seen appearing lost at Nashua, NH. One returning from a trip to Chicago to move a table and chairs on the road past Shanksville. One truck blown up at 6th and King Streets in NYC (the latter one may not be true, hard to get to the bottom of anything).

That was 17 years ago now.

There are little details in that video I linked to and the report but not enough to connect very many dots.

The link:

There was a group of art students on the 91st floor of Tower 1 and their curious activities, the ones that are known. They pulled a stunt by installing a crude, hand made wooden balcony out the window after removing the big glass, a fellow photographed from inside standing on it, and was reported by the NYT. Note the date, August 18, 2001. I don't think they ever reported on it again. And all those art students survived but a black one from was it Jamaica? The next floor up, made a bronze statue of himself with little airplanes embedded all over it. The statue survived but he did not. There are or were photographs of it on the web.

I haven't thought about the above for probably over a year or more, it upsets me, I just get into a loop of facts and disinformation that lead nowhere.

14 posted on 03/19/2017 3:04:05 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

I see the same twisted left ideas taking strong hold there as I do here.

If both countries were chosen Tby God for special reasons, they are both pushing it.

Though I think obama dispelled the idea that Israel controls the USA pretty well.

He did so many anti Israeli things I lost count.

Had an acquaintance a long while ago who told me the Israeli mob has a lot of hands in America, including phone calls from Israel soliciting SS numbers and money from the elderly.

Being as I’m Italian, I’m not in a position to condemn others on that one :)

15 posted on 03/19/2017 4:18:46 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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