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Lack of Oxford Comma Costs Maine Company Millions in Overtime Dispute
NYT ^ | 3/16/17 | DANIEL VICTOR

Posted on 03/16/2017 11:19:47 AM PDT by Timpanagos1

A class-action lawsuit about overtime pay for truck drivers hinged entirely on a debate that has bitterly divided friends, families and foes: The dreaded — or totally necessary — Oxford comma, perhaps the most polarizing of punctuation marks.

What ensued in The United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, and in a 29-page court decision handed down on Monday, was an exercise in high-stakes grammar pedantry that could cost a dairy company in Portland, Me., an estimated $10 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: comma; commas; english; oxfordcomma; oxfordcommas; punctuation
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1 posted on 03/16/2017 11:19:47 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1
What's an “Oxford comma”??? I've heard of the comma,the colon and the semi-colon.
2 posted on 03/16/2017 11:22:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Timpanagos1

Give us the nutshell...I’m not giving hits to the NYT.


3 posted on 03/16/2017 11:22:42 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Oxford comma:
Today for lunch I had chicken, coffee, and peas.

No oxford comma:
Today for lunch I had chicken, coffee and peas.

I don’t use it. Maybe I should.


4 posted on 03/16/2017 11:24:07 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
-- What's an "Oxford comma"??? I've heard of the comma,the colon and the semi-colon. --

Well played!

If unintentional, it's the second comma in "I've heard of the comma, the colon, and the semi-colon."

5 posted on 03/16/2017 11:24:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Timpanagos1

I’ll admit, I’m an Oxford comma guy, but this ruling is pretty ridiculous.


6 posted on 03/16/2017 11:24:49 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Bring back lords and kings)
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To: Timpanagos1
Oxford Comma

I'm reminded of this recent article:

NY Dropping Teacher Literacy Test Amid Claims Of Racism (High Percentage Of Blacks & Hispanics Fail)

7 posted on 03/16/2017 11:24:50 AM PDT by blam
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8 posted on 03/16/2017 11:25:21 AM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Here is everything about an Oxford Comma by Vampire Weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g


9 posted on 03/16/2017 11:25:40 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Timpanagos1

The “Oxford Comma,” also known as the “American Comma,” separates the final two items in a list of three or more.

Without it: John bought bread, milk, eggs and pizza.
With it: John bought bread, milk, eggs, and pizza.
(John has snow in his weather forecast.)

The “yob’s comma” follows the subject of a sentence: “John, went to the store.”


10 posted on 03/16/2017 11:25:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("To be arguing constantly against bores is to become a bore oneself." ~Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Let’s eat, Grandma

Let’s eat Grandma

Commas save lives.


11 posted on 03/16/2017 11:26:05 AM PDT by kevslisababy (I am a Genuine Female: No after market parts.)
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To: The people have spoken

LOL!


12 posted on 03/16/2017 11:26:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("To be arguing constantly against bores is to become a bore oneself." ~Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: Timpanagos1
Oxford comma is the correct way. That's what I was taught. It eliminates ambiguity. Sounds like that might have been relevant in this case...
13 posted on 03/16/2017 11:27:33 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Comma used after all the items in a list of three or more, except of course the last item, because after that comes the period.

With no Oxford comma:

My favorite presidents would be Washington, Lincoln, Reagan and Trump.

With Oxford comma:

My favorite presidents would be Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, and Trump.

The difference is the comma after Reagan. Now I want millions in overtime!


14 posted on 03/16/2017 11:29:08 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Timpanagos1

So, they win due to the lack of that comma but lose when the company might go out of business or lays off some of the drivers because of it?


15 posted on 03/16/2017 11:29:43 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: Cboldt; All

Those are great examples but a more appropriate one is this:

“I leave my $millions divided equally to Tom, Joe and Bill”

or

“I leave my $millions divided equally to Tom, Joe, and Bill.”

In the first case it can be (and has been) argued that you meant 50% to Tom, and 50% to Joe and Bill.

In the 2nd case it is more clear you mean 33% each to the 3 of them.

This is how lawyers think AND how they rack up more billable hours so THEY end up with the $millions.


16 posted on 03/16/2017 11:31:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: Mr. Douglas

I wrote professionally on various newspapers 25 years.

I can think of only one editor I worked under who insisted on the Oxford comma — and he may have been the best of the lot.

Personally, I always used it unless specifically told not to.


17 posted on 03/16/2017 11:31:52 AM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: Timpanagos1

Multiple inheritance cases have dealt with this exact issue during and it normally falls in favor of those listed first and to the detriment of those next to the ‘’and in the series if there is no comma.


18 posted on 03/16/2017 11:32:02 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: Gay State Conservative

It’s the “extra” comma in a list. Some people write:

I like a, b and c.

Others write:

I like a, b, and c.

The second comma is the Oxford comma.

The first sentence can be read that the writer only likes b when it’s combined with c. The second indicates that he likes each of the three on its own.


19 posted on 03/16/2017 11:32:27 AM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: The people have spoken

Beautiful! - the rhino’s are named Washington and Lincoln!


20 posted on 03/16/2017 11:32:40 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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