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ICE Agents Now Going To Courthouses To Arrest Undocumented Immigrants
CBS ^ | 03/16/17

Posted on 03/16/2017 10:22:14 AM PDT by Enlightened1

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have been going to courthouses and arresting people in America illegally, sparking outrage from prosecutors and attorneys.

They worry such tactic will discourage undocumented immigrants from appearing in court to testify as witnesses for prosecutors.

Criminal defense lawyer Octavio Chaidez said his client is among those taken into custody by ICE agents, who arrested him at the Los Angeles Superior Court in Pasadena.

He said he had just finished a criminal court appearance with his client when four agents swooped in, confirmed his name and took his client away.

“It was very shocking because it occurred inside of a courthouse, and the reason for the detention had nothing to do with that proceeding,” recalled Chaidez, who would not say if his client has a criminal history.

Chaidez said he is among many attorneys and prosecutors who worry ICE arrests at courthouses will create enough fear of deportation among witnesses or victims of crimes to affect the outcomes of cases.

“They may refuse to contact the police. They may refuse to give testimony as a witness. They may refuse to show up in court, and that affects the entire system,” the attorney explained.

The threat of deportation erodes the trust built in the non-English speaking community to persuade them to come out of the shadows and help solve crimes, Chaidez said.

“If those people are worried that their residency is going to be in jeopardy or they don’t have any status to be here in the country, then in that situation, they may not contact the police at all, even if they witnessed a very serious crime,” said the attorney, who has not seen or heard from his client since his arrest.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: arrest; courthouses; ice; illegals
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Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel...
1 posted on 03/16/2017 10:22:14 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Captive Market, no pun intended.


2 posted on 03/16/2017 10:23:57 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Enlightened1

They should peruse Home Depot.


3 posted on 03/16/2017 10:23:57 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Enlightened1

As they should.

In almost any other country your first contact with ANY law enforcement as an illegal alien will result in your detention.


4 posted on 03/16/2017 10:25:19 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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ROFLOL ICE just picking up criminal illegals, well with in their jurisdiction and rights. Just Cleaning the SWAMP!


5 posted on 03/16/2017 10:25:31 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Enlightened1

Good!

A couple weeks back, some Judge actually allowed an illegal to use her private elevator to escape ICE. Aiding and abetting.


6 posted on 03/16/2017 10:25:47 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Enlightened1

It is time to put America first and to hell with blood sucking lawyers and criminals. We have given to many rights to Criminals at the expense of hard working honest Americans.


7 posted on 03/16/2017 10:26:13 AM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: Enlightened1

Did they think to check Chaidez papers? After all, in California, illegal aliens can go to law school, graduate, take the bar and practice law here.


8 posted on 03/16/2017 10:26:15 AM PDT by vette6387
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ICE agents now going to courthouses to arrest "undocumented immigrants" (i.e., criminals)

Why did Willie Sutton rob banks?

9 posted on 03/16/2017 10:26:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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The threat of deportation erodes the trust built in the non-English speaking community
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The non-English speaking community are citizens of other countries who do not belong here.


10 posted on 03/16/2017 10:27:10 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Are they seizing witnesses as well as defendants?


11 posted on 03/16/2017 10:27:14 AM PDT by dangus
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What is the point of articles like this? That they shouldn't be arrested?
12 posted on 03/16/2017 10:28:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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Perhaps local law enforcement might reduce- the problem by detaining criminals for ICE


13 posted on 03/16/2017 10:28:23 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (There will come a time when those screaming Fascists are in fact the actual Facists. W Churchill)
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> the reason for the detention had nothing to do with that proceeding,

The article doesn’t say if his client was at the courthouse to “help solve crime” or because he’s involved in crime. My guess is the later.


14 posted on 03/16/2017 10:28:38 AM PDT by LostPassword
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Trump said they were gang members and criminals being mostly deported right away.
So what are the chances any of these non-citizens are volunteering as witnesses to other crimes instead of being in court over their own?
What are also the chances that criminal non-legal are calling or running into police stations reporting crimes? About as likely as that community mostly not accessing welfare I would guess.


15 posted on 03/16/2017 10:29:49 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Hey, in another six weeks, I’d imagine they could just slow-drive through the suburbs and pick up every other landscaper out there with a leaf blower.


16 posted on 03/16/2017 10:29:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Enlightened1; Tennessee Nana; Liz
RE:”He said he had just finished a criminal court appearance with his client when four agents swooped in, confirmed his name and took his client away.
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Chaidez said he is among many attorneys and prosecutors who worry ICE arrests at courthouses will create enough fear of deportation among witnesses or victims of crimes to affect the outcomes of cases.
“They may refuse to contact the police. They may refuse to give testimony as a witness. They may refuse to show up in court, and that affects the entire system,” the attorney explained. “

CBS News naturally.
Given this undocumented client had a lawyer there at court we can easily assume that he wasn't there to be a witness for a crime, he was there as a defendant.

17 posted on 03/16/2017 10:31:09 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Don't call it Trumpcare!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Or any home construction site.


18 posted on 03/16/2017 10:31:24 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Enlightened1

Or, just about any bus stop in America in the early morning, late afternoon, or late in the evening.


19 posted on 03/16/2017 10:31:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Willie Sutton said he robs banks because that’s where the money is. Given the criminal proclivities of illegal aliens, going to courthouses makes sense because that’s where they are. Why should there be safe spaces for criminals? Besides, the notion that aliens won’t cooperate with authorities in trials is bogus; prosecutors and judges have always chosen to drop charges against illegal aliens in favor of having immigration authorities deport them and solve the court’s and the prosecutors’ problems for them. This habit of kicking the can down the road has always been seen as cheaper and faster for the opportunistic hacks do wash their hands of the cases. They couldn’t care less that the criminals were back terrorizing their neighborhoods five days later.


20 posted on 03/16/2017 10:31:53 AM PDT by DPMD
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