Posted on 03/13/2017 10:19:24 AM PDT by HarleyLady27
YouTube of the Health Care meeting this morning with President Trump and V.P. Pence
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Thanks for posting this.
I thought this way, you can see what is coming out of ‘the horses mouth’ instead of the ‘very fake media’s’ mouth...
The GOP is forcing people to go on Medicaid when before we could get inexpensive short term health insurance and use our HSAs between jobs. Insurance is more expensive than our mortgage payment.
What happened to the party of small government?
Yes, that’s the crime! More expensive than mortgage.
Instead of the horses asses?
Repeal Obamacare and replace it with free markets! No government plan!!
“Repeal Obamacare and replace it with free markets! No government plan!!”
This needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
What happened to the party of small government? LOL, It became the party of BIG donors and Lobbyists!!! POTUS PROMISED us this would NOT happen I am beginning to give up ALL HOPE!!
POTUS actually promised just the opposite actually. His plan has always been to replace President Obama’s signature health-care law with the goal of “insurance for everybody.” On this one issue, he even stated that we conservatives would not be happy with him.
He is an advocate for insurance for everyone. I don’t agree, but we’re grownups, we can’t have everything we want. If we have a growing, booming economy, drug prices down, conservative supreme court, regulations drastically reduced, the government off of our backs, a smaller more effective government workforce, law and order, Plan Parenthood defunded, etc... I can make a sacrifice to Trump’s compassion.
As long as they revolve everything around pre-existing conditions, there is no way out of the mess. That’s where the Yuge rub is. The very definition of “insurance” does not include pre-existing conditions. It’s then called Guaranteed healthcare.
Everywhere I hear and everywhere I read, it says this bill cannot be ‘repealed’...WHY can’t it be repealed??? What law did the libs do when only they passed this bill put in there that can’t let this be repealed???
That’s the question I want answered!!!
You have to read the convoluted history of what unfolded in 2009/2010.
They got bills passed that were budget relevant and involved healthcare, then Kennedy died and they no longer had 60 votes. They THOUGHT they would get a Dem replacement into his seat, but Scott Brown won that seat. So they were forced to get the necessary modifications in that were Obamacare via Reconciliation, that requires only 50 votes.
They had to strain and contort, but because they used a budget bill that had healthcare aspects, they were able to get their plan past the Parliamentarian. Reconciliation can ONLY involve budget matters.
So Ryan is forced in his proposal to address only budget matters, because he knows what happens when it reaches the Senate.
He can’t REPEAL. That’s not strictly budget. He can’t ALLOW INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES. That’s not strictly budget. What he can do is reduce the individual mandate fine for not having insurance to zero. He can reduce the money available for Medicaid expansion. That’s strictly budget. He does all he can do within the constraints the Senate puts on him. He’s doing this SMARTER than Pelosi did.
She proposed all sorts of bizarre crap that could not even get past Senate Dems. So in the end they didn’t get what she wanted. They got Obamacare.
And they had 59 votes.
We have only 52. Ryan has done spectacular work in this bill. He guts every possible Reconciliation channel of Obamacare imaginable. If people want more, fine. Propose text that fits in Reconciliation.
Very few do. They prefer to rant instead.
We have ALWAYS had insurance for everyone if someone is diabetic then they SHOULD pay more if someone has cancer there should be high risk pools I think every insured person should pay say 20.00 a month more on their premium that could go to the high risk pool for healthcare!!! With millions of Americans paying the EXTRA $20.00 that is quite a some of money EVERY MONTH!!! As far as diabetes is concerned MANY, MANY, of these people have it due to their lifestyle choices they SHOULD PAY MORE!! People are OBESE today I never saw this kind of obesity when I was younger!!! 20.00 extra for one hundred million people is two hundred million into a high risk pool EVERY MONTH!! I don’t think Americans would mind a 20.00 fee each month for those who are in need!!! NO ILLEGALS PERIOD!!!! There is also Medicare for the poor, and Medicaid for the elderly!!! NO MEDICARE FOR ILLEGALS PERIOD!!!
Exactly what I keep saying.
Owen I don’t know who you are BUT you are DEAD WRONG on this bill do you work for LYIN RYAN!! I am begininning to think so!!! NO SALE!!!
History of the Passage of the March 2010 Health Care Reform Laws
On Dec. 24, 2009 the Senate approved similar health care reform legislation called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (HR 3590), in a 60-39 party-line vote. HR 3590 began as the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009, a bill passed by the House on Oct. 8 that modified the homebuyers credit for members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees. In a procedural move, the Senate co-opted HR 3590, removed all existing language, and replaced it with the language of their health care bill, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. No Republican Senator voted for the bill. Some Republicans argued that the bill was unconstitutional, socialistic, too costly, and would increase health insurance costs for those who are already insured. This bill was estimated to cost $871 billion over 10 years, would require most Americans to have health insurance, and would extend coverage to 31 million uninsured Americans. The CBO estimated that the bill would reduce the federal deficit by $138 billion over 2010-2019.
Negotiations to reconcile the House and Senate bills stalled in Congress after Scott Brown (R-MA) won late Ted Kennedy’s (D-MA) vacant Senate seat in Jan. 2010, causing Senate Democrats to lose their Republican filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats. On Feb. 22, 2010 President Obama unveiled his own proposal bridging the Senate and House health care bills, placing pressure on the House to pass health care reform legislation. House Democrats advanced the their amendments to HR 3590 as a new budget reconciliation bill, which is a form of legislation that requires only a simple majority and not a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate to be approved.
On Mar. 21, 2010 the House approved the Senate’s bill (HR 3590) in a 219-212 vote and passed the House’s amendments to HR 3590 as the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (HR 4872) in a 220-211 vote. The Reconciliation Act made financing and revenue changes to HR 3590, while modifying higher education assistance financing. No Republican in the House voted for either HR 3590 or the reconciliation bill.
President Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (HR 3590) (2.2 MB) into law on Mar. 23, 2010. This law was the main piece of legislation reforming the US health care system. The 906 page act was touted to increase health care coverage to include 32 million previously uninsured Americans. Under the new law, 95% of Americans will be insured, according to the White House website’s “Putting Americans in Control of Their Health Care” page (accessed Mar. 29, 2010).
President Obama issued Executive Order 13535 (90 KB) on Mar. 24, 2010, to ensure that federal funds would not be used for abortion services, consistent with the Hyde Amendment (1.3 MB) , as he had promised anti-abortion Democrats.
On Mar. 25, 2010 the Senate approved the Reconciliation Act with amendments in a 56-43 vote, and the House approved the Senate’s amended version of the act in a 220-207 vote. The Reconciliation Act (HR 4872) (283 KB) was signed into law by President Obama on Mar. 30, 2010 to make health-related financing and revenue changes to HR 3590 and to modify higher education assistance provisions.The CBO estimated that HR 3590 with the Reconciliation Act would reduce the federal deficit by $143 billion over 2010-2019, provide coverage for 32 million previously uninsured Americans, and require more Americans to have health insurance. The CBO’s deficit reduction calculation has been disputed; some independent calcuations conclude the bills would raise the deficit by over $500 billion over the next 10 years.
The Patient’s Bill of Rights (181 KB) , a summary of regulations issued by the US Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS), Labor, and Treasury, to implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, was released by the White House on June 22, 2010.
On Jan. 5, 2011 the new Republican-majority US House of Representatives introduced The Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act (HR 2) (144 KB) to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and health care related provisions in the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010. On Jan. 19, 2011, the US House of Representatives passed the bill in a 245-189 vote. On Feb. 2, 2011, in a 51-47 party-line vote, the US Senate rejected The Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act.
Good. See? They had 60 to get bills passed, then they lost 60 and had 59, but because they had passed bills with 60, all that was required from that point was to use Reconciliation to change the budgetary numbers of the items they had passed.
Look, this is just the way it is. There’s no going around it unless you explicitly kill the filibuster/cloture/60 vote rule, and conservative Senators won’t do that. If there had been no 60 vote threshold, we would have gotten single payer Canada style NHS rather than Obamacare. The filibuster is all that restrained that. It’s a good thing for conservatives.
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