Posted on 03/12/2017 7:35:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
This is the first sentence of the House GOP "repeal and replace" bill:
(a) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (b) of section 4002 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (42 U.S.C. 300u–11), as amended by section 5009 of the 21st Century Cures Act, is amended -
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Can’t wait to see those Freedom Caucus guys vote against it...
Oh wait, Trump has threatened to primary them if they do?
I guess those weenies will show their craven true colors, then.
My prediction. AHCA passes the full House on the first vote.
If the pre-existing condition element is preserved but the individual mandate is removed, premiums are going to go from stratospheric to outer space.
Can’t they at least change the name to the UnAffordable Care Act ?
Then repeal it
Can’t get the 60 votes in senate is BS.
Can win on majority vote.
To be blunt, real conservative could not beat the RINOs in the primaries for various reasons like too many running and splitting the vote, dems getting to vote in our primaries, etc.
I wont comment on Trump’s part in this because it hasn’t crossed his desk yet and I never know what he’s thinking as he’s good at hiding it.
I knew mcConnell and mccain and linda were POS, but the biggest POS is Ryan, he with the high gates around his house.
That leprechaun ####.
It also retains minimum mandatory care standards and Medicaid expansion for two more years. It renames Obamas subsidies to GOP ‘tax credits” as if we the people are too stupid to understand that spending is spending. But does nothing on interstate commerce or tort reform.
It’s a money pit for government, and an unaffordable turd for citizens.
Reality bites - let’s see how it all pans out.
Definitely not what many of us desired, but frankly, and unfortunately, we are not getting the destruction of 50 years of government involvement in healthcare ever, it aint gonna happen. Too many citizens and therefore pols are generationally conditioned to this state. Lets get the best dael ee can get, and win. If we fail here, Trumps fails, no wall, no tax cuts and we lose seats in 2018.
I have heard that the 0-Care repeal will need three stages to accomplish. Here is the real problem, no one trusts you at all. Too many betrayals. To those who think The Freedom Caucus will be able to stop this abomination I urge caution. I believe the dim leadership will direct enough of their members to vote for RINO care so it will pass regardless of the relatively small number of patriots voting against it. When it passes the pubbies will be hated by their base like never before. If Trump vetoes it I believe enough dims will join with the anti-American pubbies to override. So if it passes you can kiss the Republican Party goodbye. All this so the sacrosanct Senate Filibuster Rule is preserved. Senators, the Republic is in an existential crisis brought on by the Democrat Party of Treason. Do not let the dims kill the Republic. Eliminate the filibuster rule and and start repairing the damage the dims have done to the Republic. I won't hold my breath waiting for pubbie senators to get a spine.
Phase 1 will end Obamacare. The Senate rules for reconcilation with a Budget require what is being done to enable ending Obamacare with just 51 votes. Any other technique would allow filibusters and require 60 votes. No Democrat will vote for repeal.
Sit tight and let the system work. Investigate yourself and you will understand.
Because the bill has to pass via the reconciliation process in the Senate. A new law would face a filibuster.
They're not going to get that.
>>If the pre-existing condition element is preserved but the individual mandate is removed, premiums are going to go from stratospheric to outer space.<<
Not likely. Under Obamacare the young weren’t signing up because the initial penalty was not that onerous, so they paid it. The main reason they didn’t sign up was because their premiums were outrageous given their average health condition. That was by design, so they would have to subsidize the older, less healthy, population. The older population, as a direct result, was undercharged.
Obamacare (or maybe just Obama’s rulemaking apparatus) then made it so you could wait to get sick and then sign up at the regular rate, so even though the premium for many was too high, they’d sign up if they contracted a serious (expensive) health problem.
This was a law designed to fail.
Under the GOP bill, the young would be foolish not to sign up, assuming they’re not so foolish as to go uninsured when insurance is readily available at a price based on their age. (Granted, some will go uninsured, but they’re the idiots among us.)
Those idiots will then be charged a 30% surcharge if they try to sign up later, essentially. To my mind, that’s too low a penalty for waitiing. They should bear the cost of any health condition they come down with while voluntarily uninsured.
Because no physical will be required of those who sign up during the enrollment period, it’s logical to assume that a percentage of them will already have a pre-existing condition. The pricing for the whole group will reflect that percentage, and will vary later depending upon experience, just as any other group insurance does.
In short, this looks like actual insurance, designed to work, instead of Obamacare, designed to fail, intentionally.
After all the games Harry Reid used to pass Obamacare, I don’t care what the senate parliamentarian says about reconciliation. Regular order. 51 votes. Full repeal today effective December 31, 2017. That gives these fools in the GOP enough time to do their job for once.
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