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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


2 posted on 03/11/2017 4:57:40 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

I have this feeling Mr President is going to let Ryan go down with this health care bill
Ryan is so proud of himself watch him go down in flames, well that is my bet, then Ryan has to beg back to Mr President... In my world anyway


16 posted on 03/11/2017 5:05:25 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Cards are being played, you have been Trumped! TRUMP 2016!tapp)
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To: indcons

I have this feeling Mr President is going to let Ryan go down with this health care bill
Ryan is so proud of himself watch him go down in flames, well that is my bet, then Ryan has to beg back to Mr President... In my world anyway


17 posted on 03/11/2017 5:05:30 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Cards are being played, you have been Trumped! TRUMP 2016!tapp)
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To: indcons

I have this feeling Mr President is going to let Ryan go down with this health care bill
Ryan is so proud of himself watch him go down in flames, well that is my bet, then Ryan has to beg back to Mr President... In my world anyway


18 posted on 03/11/2017 5:05:43 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Cards are being played, you have been Trumped! TRUMP 2016!tapp)
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To: indcons

Isn’t Obamacare failing on its own? If so, why chase it with repeal?

A few things:

1. People paid a working lifetime of payroll taxes into Medicare.
2. Obama stole $500 million from Medicare and put it into his unconstitutional ACA.
3. It seems it would be just to take that Medicare transfer and transfer it back. And it shouldn’t be difficult as Medicare was never repealed.

Now it seems fairly simple to get the 60 votes to repeal Obamacare. Oh yes, it is easy, don’t think it’s not.

It’s just going to take to committing to play hardball against democrats (and republicans) which the stupid GOP never does because many of them are in on it. They only play hardball with conservatives. Just remember Mississippi.

The President wrote ‘The Art of the Deal’. He can get the leverage to make the dems play ball. Here’s how:

Obama and his criminal ring stole criminally and massively from GSO’s in the mortgage market to prop up the ACA.

Here’s a report from less than a month ago:
http://blogs.barrons.com/focusonfunds/2017/02/22/fannie-and-freddie-took-a-big-fall-will-bruce-berkowitz-fairholme-come-tumbling-after

AG Sessions can direct DOJ resources into investigating the events discovered in these lawsuits as part of a probe into a criminal conspiracy. It shouldn’t take that much time to find a lower level group of conspiracists to obtain plea deals on in return for turning evidence on higher ups. Some of those higher ups can be expected to lead into the DNC leadership.

Once Sessions has the DNC leadership by the balls, the 60 votes needed to repeal Obamacare should be a cakewalk.


56 posted on 03/11/2017 5:37:45 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: indcons

One caveat, why does it have to be local and state to pick up the destitute, why not charities. It used to be that way and worked quite well. Why does everything have to be so complicated.


154 posted on 03/11/2017 8:58:05 PM PST by DandG13
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To: indcons

Well said, Jim. My sentiments exactly. Trump MUST know any compromise on Obamacare is a win for the establishment and will very possibly destroy his base support.


189 posted on 03/12/2017 6:42:44 AM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: indcons

Reality. Sorry, we are not going back to 1964 and healthcare. We have to work with the, here and now. This plan may very well damage Trump, but if it fails, his Presidency ends, as does his and our agenda. And if that happens, mark my words, we will have fewer numbers in 2018. Republicans now own the healthcare system, their in power, they see it failing, and should be blamed if not at least taking a best shot at fixing it. Uncomfortable reality, for those of us who believe government involvement in healthcare has created this mess, but its now a multi generational voter thing and that aint gonna change. Trump and we need the best deal we can get. Take it, and the win. It may not be the blowout we hope for, but the seasons over if we get no plan. Live to fight another day. Any other position is ,”yeah”, fighting for the other team.


221 posted on 03/12/2017 11:00:50 AM PDT by QuigleyDU
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