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RELIEF FROM OBAMACARE FINALLY ON THE WAY?
Frontpage Mag ^ | March 8, 2017 | Joseph Klein

Posted on 03/09/2017 5:54:02 PM PST by xzins

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1 posted on 03/09/2017 5:54:02 PM PST by xzins
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Unfortunately, if too many conservatives in Congress remain steadfast in their opposition to the proposed health care replacement legislation because it is not ideologically pure enough for them, they will end up with the worst of all worlds – the status quo and the wrath of the voters who expected Republicans with control over Congress and the White House to finally eliminate the worst features of Obamacare. No legislative solution to all of the complex health care coverage issues will be ideal. And questions remain regarding how much the Republicans’ proposed legislation would cost and how many Americans would be helped or hurt by the changes from Obamacare
2 posted on 03/09/2017 5:54:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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prohibition on denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or charging them more for such coverage

well, that's all fine and dandy if you're under 30 and disabled, but the bill allows companies to charge (up to, was it 4 times?) more for older people for premiums, so wouldn't age invalidate the 'charging them more money' stuff?

3 posted on 03/09/2017 5:57:48 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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This bill should have been ready to go Day One. The recalcitrants in the RINO wing have to be held accountable.


4 posted on 03/09/2017 5:58:56 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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So to summarize: BTFO conservatives, because our gop masters know what’s best for us.


5 posted on 03/09/2017 6:02:46 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (It's no longer Right versus left, but Americanism versus globalist scum.)
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Gaslighting at it’s worst.


6 posted on 03/09/2017 6:06:57 PM PST by Alt Right
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To: Newt 2012

No, not gas lighting at its worst.

Blackmailing at its worst.

Clearly every one of our representatives has been blackmailed. Supreme court justices too.


7 posted on 03/09/2017 6:08:57 PM PST by ladyjane
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The author of this article is completely out to lunch. I'm OK with using the RyanCare bill as a starting point for negotiations in Congress, but it makes no sense to waste any time negotiating anything if people who are looking at the bill don't even know what the hell they're talking about.

The proposed legislation would preserve the prohibition on denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or charging them more for such coverage, and it would preserve the prohibition on capping lifetime coverage.

I don't know if I would call these two things the worst aspects of ObamaCare, but I do know that these provisions are two of the biggest reasons why health insurance premiums have skyrocketed since ObamaCare was passed.

For one thing, it's ludicrous to think an insurance company is going to offer anything affordable if they can't charge the policy holders with a 100% risk for claims (the ones who are already sick) more for their coverage than they charge healthy people.

And why would anyone in Congress object to an insurance company even having the option to offer a multitude of different insurance plans to their clients -- say, with no lifetime cap, a $10 million cap, $5 million cap, or a $2 million cap?

8 posted on 03/09/2017 6:09:31 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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Congress shall pass no law that applies to the citizens of the US that does not also apply to the congress, senate, and all federal employees.

Rather simple, isn’t it?


9 posted on 03/09/2017 6:11:17 PM PST by 9422WMR (President Trump, I like the sound of that!)
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Until the insurance companies and drug companies are put out of business and replaced by companies reasonably regulated with charitable health insurance companies enabled to compete with shareholder driven ones, we will not solve the crisis nor drive down costs nor put Doctors and patients in charge of their own destiny.

Ryan is hateful and Donald acting like a stooge.


10 posted on 03/09/2017 6:16:45 PM PST by amihow
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RELIEF FROM OBAMACARE FINALLY ON THE WAY?

Not so long as Republicans have anything to do with it.

11 posted on 03/09/2017 6:19:20 PM PST by arthurus
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How about they make this easy for themselves and all involved.

Completely dump Obamacare and

Give all of us the same healthcare program they made for themselves

OR

They all go on whatever program they come up with for us.

They work for us, not the other way around.


12 posted on 03/09/2017 6:20:07 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Ryancare is Obamcare rearranged, it is not repeal.
Fedzilla’s attendants in Congress will not take away the power that Obamacare gives Fedzilla over the citizens.
It’s the structure of Obamacare that the Uniparty wants to preserve.


13 posted on 03/09/2017 6:23:46 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Blackmailed, or bribed?


14 posted on 03/09/2017 6:25:51 PM PST by Alt Right
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Don’t worry the super secret phase 3 will save the day!


15 posted on 03/09/2017 6:26:26 PM PST by Emergencyawesome
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Key changes involving repeal of Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion and the Obamacare subsidies will not take full effect until 2020.


Now there is a fairy tale. No chance that happens in a POTUS election year. Plainly, we are being lied to. President Trump better wise up quick or this will be his “read my lips” moment.


16 posted on 03/09/2017 6:27:27 PM PST by lodi90
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The proposed legislation would preserve the prohibition on denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or charging them more for such coverage, and it would preserve the prohibition on capping lifetime coverage.

I don’t know if I would call these two things the worst aspects of ObamaCare, but I do know that these provisions are two of the biggest reasons why health insurance premiums have skyrocketed since ObamaCare was passed.

For one thing, it’s ludicrous to think an insurance company is going to offer anything affordable if they can’t charge the policy holders with a 100% risk for claims (the ones who are already sick) more for their coverage than they charge healthy people.


Exactly. What will happen is people will still get offered near useless health “insurance” plans like we got now under Obamacare. $5k in premiums with a $5k deductible, etc. Except this time it won’t be Obamacare. It will be Trumpcare and suicide for the GOP.


17 posted on 03/09/2017 6:30:27 PM PST by lodi90
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The political class is all exempt. They are so out of touch because they don’t have to deal with the financial pain of Obamacare. If they were paying $800 a month for their families insurance with a $5k deductible you can bet they would not be putting lipstick on the Obamacare pig.


18 posted on 03/09/2017 6:32:38 PM PST by lodi90
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The proposed legislation would preserve the prohibition on denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or charging them more for such coverage.

That by itself makes health "insurance" illegal. Whatever is offered under that shelf tag, "insurance" it ain't.

19 posted on 03/09/2017 6:42:14 PM PST by thulldud
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There's a very simple process for dealing with this disaster -- and this is a perfect time for it:

1. Let the GOP leadership in Congress do whatever the hell they want with their "health care reform." They can reform it, repeal it, sit on their @sses and leave ObamaCare in place, etc. It doesn't really matter.

2. Have some enterprising business and medical professionals -- you know, the kind of people who have been MAKING AMERICA GREAT for more than 200 years -- come up with a medical insurance or cost-sharing plan that is governed (or not) by the regulations in one or more states and saves its members a ton of money because it doesn't meet any of the ObamCare or RyanCare requirements.

3. Tell Congress, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the insurance industry lobbyists that own Congress to go f#%& themselves.

For Congress – and President Trump – it would be politically disastrous to take a stand against an alternative option for health care that costs a fraction of what the “legal” ObamaCare and/or RyanCare crap costs.

20 posted on 03/09/2017 6:57:51 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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