Posted on 03/08/2017 4:57:36 PM PST by Twotone
From the moment the GOP released the American Health Care Act, the first iteration of what will evolve into Obamacare repeal and replace legislation, conservatives have been griping. The editors of Investor’s Business Daily sum up the general reaction of the right thus: “Republicans have labored to produce plan that replaces ObamaCare with…. ObamaCare.” Interestingly, the editorial goes on to refute this argument by listing the bill’s positive attributes, including repeal of the law’s individual mandate, employer mandate, countless hidden taxes, and its expansion of HSAs. Yet IBD’s editors conclude that it “supports all the key elements of Obamacare.”
This is nonsense. Indeed, to employ an old aphorism, it makes the perfect the enemy of the good. This viewpoint is not merely unrealistic about what the Republicans can accomplish, considering their narrow margin in the Senate, but it actually reduces the chances that a repeal bill will ever reach the President’s desk. Here’s a little reality check for conservatives and libertarians who fantasize about “going back” to free market medicine — we haven’t had anything resembling a free health care market since World War II and we will never have one. Why? The public doesn’t really want one. What the voters really want is cheap, accessible care — any way they can get it.
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My own health care plan: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3532238/posts?page=53#53
By then the big mo will have dissipated. This is the only window before the 2018 election cycle.
Lets get something big down now and we can work on it as we go along.
There is NOT one thing in this bill that makes the costs go down NOT ONE THING!!!
I agree. All these welfare state apparatuses didn’t blossom at one time, they have to be diminished in a wise way. Heck, I even recall Ron Paul talking about reform in that way.
A fight against the progressive wing of the Republican Party is long overdue.
If it’s not repealed, Trump is a one term president
If it collapses, Trump is a one term president. Low info voters will blame the president in charge
Trump can hasten it’s collapse by refusing to fund it and enforce it.
and 2018 is not that far away. the reps could even get to the magic 60 senators as long as obamacare is still obamacare. now is not the time to cave to the gope’s ryancare. give us a clean repeal as part of the plan or screw them.
We’ll probably need another Supreme Court case to really get rid of Obamacare. Once Gorsuch is seated & one leftist justice bites the dust. Until we have a court that respects the constitution & original intent, we’re going to continue with this nonsense.
so tax returns won’t be rejected for not declaring whether you have coverage or not...okay, does that mean you will or won’t be fined for not having coverage in 2016? Can’t find anywhere that says you won’t. The IRS was still notified by employers whether or not employees had coverage, per month..got our little form the other day. 9 months without coverage is equaling a fine of $1042...no refund for us! We have to pay!
They don’t even have to repeal it. Stop the mandate (which they’ve already more or less done), and stop the subsidies. It’ll die on the vine immediately.
They will take the applications, but will they later retroactively apply fines?
And that’s the thing. If Republicans tweak this, and don’t forget the Appointed Secretary of HHS has great power, when Dems have the majority and/or Presidency again with a Dem appointed Secretary of HHS they’ll tweak it back. It’ll be a never ending political football.
I can’t believe Republicans are too stupid to see that.
That’s why they should have repealed it already.
Nonsense.
As a result of all these actors serving those who are colluding to jack up the price by a factor of five to ten over what it should be for medical care in this country and the complete unwillingness of both Congress and the press to call those parties out and put a stop to it the federal budget is on a path to implosion along with all of the pension systems in the United States within the current President's term.
When the government collapses completely, we will go back to a free market. Until then, we will be stuck with Ryan care, so he can appease his handlers, in the insurance racket.
About 15yrs. out before we get cheap real health care. Just a guess on timing.
If they want to fix Medicaid, the answer is simple. Stop giving it (and other benefits) to women who keep having more and more babies to get more benefits. Stop giving it to illegals who drop anchor babies in our country.
There would be enough money left over to give Medicaid to poor and disabled AMERICANS who have sense enough not to breed like rabbits.
Bill Clinton started this decline with the 1996 Welfare DE-form Act. Made it so that people ages 18-65 have to be on disability to get any help at all—and we all know how near-impossible it is to convince some slimeball judge that you’re disabled. Meanwhile, the gravy train kept on rolling for women having baby after baby in a grab for more benefits.
Obama finished us with the ACA.
We need to repeal the ACA, give assistance to people who DON’T make breeding their career, and go after the healthcare industry so they can’t get away with obscene charges like $25 just to stick the needle into your skin to draw blood, or $6 for a lousy Tylenol. Insurance companies may be gouging us, but they in turn are getting gouged by the medical industry...so they pass the high prices along to us.
Stop the medical industry’s greed, stop the career breeders, and you stop the healthcare crisis in its tracks.
Bingo! I see there are a few Freepers here in Realityville with me. You’ve got tens of millions of hardworking Americans who don’t generally vote for Republicans but voted for Trump. A lot of them have already been forced into Obamacare. Just repealing it doesn’t help them. Trump promised “everyone will be taken care of” and “repeal and replace”. Just repealing isn’t enough, and if you repeal first the Democrats along with enough conservative ideologues will prevent any replacement from being passed and let Trump and the Republicans take the blame.
Bump
Just repeal. Why can’t we just go back to the way things were with certain exceptions like tort reform, no care for illegals, emergency room reform, stop drug advertising and punish price gouging. A two page bill will do it. I don’t get all the BS! There is absolutely nothing wrong with our health care it is the insurance that’s causing the problem. Doesn’t sound like it would be that complicated.
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