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Cruz: House's ObamaCare repeal bill can't pass the Senate
The Hill ^ | 03/08/2017 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 03/08/2017 2:16:04 PM PST by ForYourChildren

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To: WVNan
I would start with lining up a pool of insurance companies who will compete for business.

They're not going to do that unless they know they will make money. If all they're going to get are sick and elderly, as they did under Obamacare, they they won't be interested in Ryancare.

Then pass a bill which allows them to sell across state lines.

Tenth Amendment concerns aside, any insurance company can sell in any state they want so long as they register with the state insurance people and meet their requirements.

61 posted on 03/08/2017 3:44:42 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: tennmountainman
But where is Senator Cruz’s Bill? Where is the Senate Bill?

What's wrong with the bill they passed and sent to Obama last year?

62 posted on 03/08/2017 3:47:10 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: ForYourChildren

For heaven’s sake, is it really so hard to figure out a way to kill ZeroCare?

I’ve been hearing for years that ZeroCare is imploding, it’s too expensive, providers are pulling out of the exchanges, blah blah blah So, let it stand! If it’s left to stand on its own, it will die.

But we must also allow insurance companies to offer non ZeroCare plans. They will compete for business on a nationwide basis, cover preexisting conditions, etc. etc.

Let the market have free market and government solutions competing side by side.

Let’s see who wins.


63 posted on 03/08/2017 3:47:39 PM PST by BlueYonder
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To: Hugin

“Just repealing it and leaving those people in the lurch would also be a political disaster, and a violation of Trump’s campaign promise.”

These people would do the same thing as before there was Obamacare, they’d get on Medicare or Medicaid, neither of which is going away.


64 posted on 03/08/2017 3:56:17 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: tennmountainman

Rand Paul was on Fox today mentioning that he thought repeal of Obamacare might pass the Senate. Do this and figure out a new plan later. I don’t hold out much hope.


65 posted on 03/08/2017 3:57:32 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Carthego delenda est

Medicaid didn’t cover working poor without kids, let alone middle class who can’t afford a thousand a month for insurance. Medicare only covers people over 65 and the disabled.


66 posted on 03/08/2017 4:01:40 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: BlueYonder

“cover preexisting conditions, “

Covering preexisting conditions is a killer for insurance.

Nobody would buy auto insurance until they had an accident if the auto companies had to cover preexisting conditions.

Nobody would buy life insurance until they died if the life insurers had to cover preexisting conditions.

They need some type of mechanism, like workers compensation second injury funds, to cover preexisting conditions.


67 posted on 03/08/2017 4:04:27 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: tennmountainman
But where is Senator Cruz’s Bill? Where is the Senate Bill?

What's wrong with the bill they passed and sent to Obama last year?

68 posted on 03/08/2017 4:06:53 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Don’t think the Dems bothered with filibuster on those bills because they knew it would not be signed.

They would bother now.

You have no leg to stand on. Offer up Reconciliation language superior to Ryan’s or hush.


69 posted on 03/08/2017 4:10:25 PM PST by Owen
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To: DoodleDawg

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What’s wrong with the bill they passed and sent to Obama last year?
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Not a thing, except the Dems didn’t bother to filibuster it because it would be a waste of their time when they knew it would not be signed.

They would filibuster it now.

So you’re shot down, too.


70 posted on 03/08/2017 4:11:51 PM PST by Owen
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To: cornfedcowboy

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Rand Paul was on Fox today mentioning that he thought repeal of Obamacare might pass the Senate.
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That’s 60 votes. He’s being silly. Eight Dems won’t vote for that. Eight Dems won’t vote for ANYTHING at all from the GOP, nor should they, unless they are up in 2018 and from a red state. There aren’t 8 of those, and not all running in a newly red state will be too worried.

This is just silly.


71 posted on 03/08/2017 4:15:14 PM PST by Owen
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To: ForYourChildren

http://beforeitsnews.com/r2/?url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/08/republican-health-care-bill-facts/98917660/


72 posted on 03/08/2017 4:15:38 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Owen

Didn’t anyone see the press conference yesterday? Ryan explained the three phases of the replacement. Phase one (this phase)is going to be done under reconciliation and will only require 50 votes.


73 posted on 03/08/2017 4:17:13 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You messages would be much easier to read if you’d quit screaming.

Take care


74 posted on 03/08/2017 4:21:15 PM PST by deport
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To: Owen
Not a thing, except the Dems didn’t bother to filibuster it because it would be a waste of their time when they knew it would not be signed.

The bill last year did away with the mandate penalties, removed all funding for Obamacare subsidies and the Medicaid expansion. Since it dealt with spending the Democrats couldn't filibuster it. And they can't now. Pass it again and Obamacare is as good as dead within a month or two.

75 posted on 03/08/2017 4:22:11 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cruz isn’t the only one saying this. It’ll take 60 Senate votes. And that ain’t happening.>>> the theory was this was a recon type bill that would only need 51.


76 posted on 03/08/2017 4:35:45 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: ForYourChildren

I hope he’s right.

Good luck with that.

Obamacare passed in the Senate.


77 posted on 03/08/2017 5:02:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Where were you told that spending bills can’t be filibustered?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate

No mention of spending bills. You are misinformed.


78 posted on 03/08/2017 5:28:23 PM PST by Owen
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To: Responsibility2nd

And I might add, remove any and all enforcement provisions and you’ll have 20,000 plus pages of the Affordable Healthcare Act that are as worthless as used toilet paper.

Problem solved.>>> i’m not so sure. without direction to change the policies inscos now have gold, copper, crap, they will need direction from someone in government. like your on your own back to the state regs. That would be my choice and simple repeal will do that. i think it is a tax bill and could be repealed the same way it passed in recon. mho


79 posted on 03/08/2017 5:39:12 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: DoodleDawg

Good question. Where is that bill?


80 posted on 03/08/2017 6:21:30 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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