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What happens when the doctors only take cash
Time ^ | 01/26/2017 | Haley Sweetland Edwards

Posted on 03/07/2017 7:18:50 PM PST by Wisconsinlady

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To: BuffaloJack

My insurance company didn’t pay sh!t last year. I’m not saying, didn’t pay the full amounts, I’m saying their contribution (out of the funds I paid them every two weeks, per my employer’s policy which I subsidize) was ZERO.

This year the employer changed providers and now I’m paying even more per check. Haven’t been to the doctor. Can’t afford to. Thanks NObama.


21 posted on 03/07/2017 7:59:04 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I’m hoping that during this period when the Repeal and Replace of Obamacare is being discussed, argued over, debated, yelled about and eventually voted on there will at least a little time spent on the following point:

SOME PEOPLE DONT NEED AND DONT WANT TO INSURE THEIR HEALTH.

I think there are a lot of them. We should not punish them. We should not subsidize them at emergency hospitals. We should assume they will go to doctors when they need to and pay those doctors when presented with a bill. That system works at the grocery store, your favorite department store, with your landlord and the bank that financed your brand new Toyota.

It will, for many people, work just the same with doctors.


22 posted on 03/07/2017 8:02:08 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: dp0622
I had some blood and urine tests. The billed price was around $1500. The insurance contract price was $75 of which I had to pay $5. There is no way that the $1500 and $75 can match up. Either they are going broke at $75 (unlikely) or are trying to rip off non-insurance patients hugely at $1500.

Doctors - be honest, tell the real price up front and people won't complain as much and will pay their bills.

23 posted on 03/07/2017 8:11:14 PM PST by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: Wisconsinlady

There is no way to reform or tweak america’s screwed up third party payer system. The only way to help the middle class is for Congress to sanction, and encourage a parallel free-market cash system to grow, and slowly displace our bloated third -party payer system


24 posted on 03/07/2017 8:14:55 PM PST by PGR88 (The)
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To: ssaftler

In some respects, health care in the U.S. hasn’t been a legitimate industry since Doctor Baker was making house calls on “Little House on the Prairie” and getting paid in eggs and fresh bread.


25 posted on 03/07/2017 8:15:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Vendome

It doesn’t make sense to me. Ok - the monthly makes sense. However, if I stay within network, my regular doctor visits are covered with a small co-pay, but nothing else.

I’ve had blood tests for just a small percentage due. I have a medical test coming up this month. I’ll have to see what I end up paying, but I don’t have to meet my deductible prior to having many things covered.


26 posted on 03/07/2017 8:16:05 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: KarlInOhio
I think that hospitals (the place of the $50 aspirin) are incredibly expensive places to run, and they are trying to get their money wherever they can.

Too bad that there aren't more non-profit or truly religious hospitals any more. I don't begrudge medical professionals their wages, but the administrative / executive salaries are out of whack.

27 posted on 03/07/2017 8:19:20 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: wintertime

“...When there are more women in the medical school classes than men then the profession has already flipped...”

In Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s semi-autobiographical novel CANCER WARD all of the doctors at the cancer wing were women. But when a female doctor got cancer, likely due from over exposure to radiation used in cancer treatments, she went to see an old male doctor who maintained a quasi-private practice in downtown Tashkent. He recommended that she go to Moscow for treatment and she said, “so you think it is that bad” and he said, “I just want you to have a bit more of an edge.”

But one reason there were so many female MDs is because of the male shortage in the aftermath of WWII in the USSR.


28 posted on 03/07/2017 8:23:49 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Vendome

For further read/thought ping. Busy at the moment.


29 posted on 03/07/2017 8:30:19 PM PST by Redcitizen
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To: Wisconsinlady

Wife had to get a blood test at the local hospital today. While checking in, she saw a sign that said “Ask us about MD $ave”. She did, and was told it was a plan for those with no insurance. They accepted cash, at one fourth the usual rate.


30 posted on 03/07/2017 8:35:10 PM PST by Oatka
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To: CodeToad

agree with you...just had an MRI do to accident using Aetna for my insurance. Had not met my deductible...I was billed $2700 (THAT WAS NEGOTIATED)


31 posted on 03/07/2017 8:42:21 PM PST by terart
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To: Patriotic1
They had a landmark agreement in a town near me between the municipal government and a major regional hospital that is one of the largest employers in the town.

Basically, the town was going to wage a court battle to force the hospital to pay property taxes even though it had traditionally been an "exempt" property as a non-profit/charity operation. I thought the town had no legal leg to stand on, but -- remarkably -- the hospital didn't even let it get to a lawsuit and instead caved in to the town's demands. Their only stipulation was that the hospital's payments had to be categorized as "payments in lieu of taxes" instead of actual taxes -- so as to avoid setting a precedent that might hurt them down the road, I guess.

32 posted on 03/07/2017 8:44:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Program computers to replace 99% of what doctors do...


33 posted on 03/07/2017 8:53:59 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama's Deep State is attempting to overturn results of a Presidential Election - it's treason.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Easy Answer ... flipping Govt Hacks are not involved, the Doc gets His/Her $, I get my Healthcare and it is much more Affordable.

Liberty and Freedom


34 posted on 03/07/2017 8:56:57 PM PST by TexasTransplant (They used to get away with it. Not anymore.)
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To: davidb56

If the hospital is in the patient’s network, the only money the hospital can legally collect is the difference between the approved network rate and the amount the insurance company paid.

Several problem issues raise their ugly head and the patient doesn’t inquire about them. Although the hospital chosen may be in the patient’s network, none of the professionals providing service may be in their network and they end up receiving a slug of very expensive bills once they are out of the hospital. Or the insurance doesn’t cover any ancillary services, only a basic per day/bed charge.

More and more doctors and health professionals are dropping all network participation because insurance carriers keep cutting the reimbursement rate.

More and more individuals do not understand how insurance pays/processes a claim, what their policy really covers or how they can advocate for themselves with carriers. Individuals who work for insurance carriers rarely know anything about a policy other than the very general information they read on their screen and have never actually worked in a doctor’s office or hospital. HR people make recommendations on coverage without sufficient knowledge as to what their employees need. And then you throw in politicians who set standards in an area they know little to nothing about.

It’s just a mess from top to bottom.


35 posted on 03/07/2017 9:04:52 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Same here. Our fearless leaders have their gold-plated plans though.
Make it ‘cash & carry’ like it used to be and medical costs will plummet.


36 posted on 03/07/2017 9:06:32 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: InterceptPoint

Instead of requiring Insurance “or else” like Obamacare does, simply state that if you do not have Coverage and you use the Emergency Room for Medical Treatment, you are responsible for the costs and you are not protected by Bankruptcy Laws.

Informed choice for those who think others are responsible for their Healthcare. No free rides.


37 posted on 03/07/2017 9:13:32 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Wisconsinlady
In the past, I have gotten bloodwork through my GP. Once, they screwed up and missed including my insurance company. On $200 of bloodwork, my "discounted" rate without insurance was $40. When I corrected them, and provided the insurance billing info, they sent it through, and the "discounted" rate figuring in the agreed upon rate they were willing to take, with no check from my insurance company...was $40. I phoned into the billing department and asked "If you are willing to settle for $40 when I have insurance, and you were willing to settle for $40 when I (incorrectly) "didn't" have insurance...you can apparently pay all your costs and still make a profit...just charging $40 for that service. Why ARN'T YOU?"

Stunned silence.

38 posted on 03/07/2017 9:15:57 PM PST by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: DaxtonBrown

I had a cosmetic surgery done at one of our local hospitals. Included everything except my doc fees. 5 hr surgery. $3200.
Around the same time hubby had a surgery at a local surgery center. We were there a total of 3 hrs. They billed his insurance for $30 something thousand.


39 posted on 03/07/2017 9:18:36 PM PST by sheana
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To: cyclotic

When I was going through chemo the infusion center was billing my insurance for $8k a pop. The insurance was paying them $1800.


40 posted on 03/07/2017 9:20:34 PM PST by sheana
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