Everyone here knows there is nothing that a Romanian or a Russian or any other kind of hacker could do to actually affect the election because the voting machines are not connected to the internet. The only hacking was to the DNC itself. All we really know is that there was hacking of Democrat materials especially their emails.
We have to ask ourselves, “Why?” What would any hacker hope to get?
Everyone was expecting Hillary to win this thing right up to the very end. It was a big surprise that even Trump was ultimately and actually preferred over Hillary by the American people. So, because they expected Hillary to win, they wanted to have information they could use to manipulate her in office. This would be a classic Russian move.
Sidebar: There is no way the Russians would prefer having Trump as president over Hillary. Whatever Trump represented or behaved or however out of the norm his politics were, no one ever doubted that he was going to be building up the military. And the Russians had no intention of losing another arms race. There is no way the Russians would help Trump win. On the other hand there is every reason to think they wanted Hillary to win because she presented a very anti-American opportunity for them in the continuation of Obama’s policies. As everyone knows, Putin is trying to rebuild his empire and hopes to get more uranium and plutonium with Clinton in his pocket.
At this point, all the Democrats can do is undermine Trump, hoping to impeach him and accuse him of dealing with the Russians. Sour grapes, sour grapes. Yet, Pence could possibly be a bigger threat to the Russians AND the Democrats than Trump, since he is an actual Conservative. The Democrats are in a real quandary.
Their only hope, a really dim one now, is to overturn the election. That failing, to tie him up the way they did Reagan in the later years; to weaken the conservatives politically in order to take back the house and the senate in 2018 and then the presidency in 2020, so that they can continue their program of globalism and destruction of the American way of life. The Democrats, however, are delusional if they expect that to happen precisely BECAUSE of the tactics they are using. Americans are getting tired of these games.
LOL. Yeah, the VERY last minute! About 9:00 PM November 8. The dems were so sure that Hillary would win that they broke the law to destroy DJT and it all blew up in their face. I sincerely believe that the President has three or four more steps already planned, his wire tap tweet was just step one.
I think he's got the goods on them and he's planning to drop the hammer, at the appropriate time. I'd be very nervous if I were in any way involved in this surveillance scandal. Very, very nervous.
1. Their only hope, a really dim one now, is to overturn the election.
***Not gonna Happen***
2. That failing, to tie him up the way they did Reagan in the later years; to weaken the conservatives politically in order to take back the house and the senate in 2018 and then the presidency in 2020, so that they can continue their program of globalism and destruction of the American way of life.
***The math works against them. They have 10 at risks seats, we have 2 in 2018. They will lose a minimum of 8 and we may lose 1, with a net gain of 7 but, if momentum is on our side we might take 10 or 11.***
3. The Democrats, however, are delusional if they expect that to happen precisely BECAUSE of the tactics they are using. Americans are getting tired of these games.
***Nuff Said***
I agree with much of that, but, I think the original intel assessment also makes sense. It might be “some of all”, from the Russian perspective:
First, it should be kept in mind that the Russians tried to hack both the DNC and the RNC, but failed in the latter effort. It would make sense that they would try to obtain info. on both sides that they could use for manipulation, regardless of who won.
However, I believe the bigger purpose was just as originally explained: The Russians main purpose was to sow discord to weaken the US.
Regardless of who won, the Russians would be in a bad way. Hillary would continue to cause trouble in the ME and elsewhere, which Russia with its weak economy can ill afford. Trump would be even more effective: While not opposing Russia so overtly, he would amp up the arms race, while pushing the rest of NATO to ante up too. Russia cannot possibly afford to keep up, and to make matters worse, Trump will unleash US energy production, cutting off Putin at the knees.
The only real way Russia has to prevent any of that, aside from nukes, is to sow enormous discord in the US.
The ironic part, of course, is that the left (and certain Pubs) are yapping loudly about some sort of Russian “threat” via imagined collusion with Trump, when in fact the yappers are playing the part of “the useful idiots” to the tee, in promoting discord in the US, and thereby advancing Putin’s agenda.
Of course, as you say, this could backfire mightily if it ends up with Pence as President. But, I agree, the chances of Trump being forced out of office are minimal, so long as he plays his cards well.
“On the other hand there is every reason to think they wanted Hillary to win because she presented a very anti-American opportunity for them in the continuation of Obama’s policies.”
Putin was quoted as saying that if Hillary wins there will be war between the US and Russia. Why would he say that if he wanted Hillary to win? Just asking, not arguing.