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Trump Seeking Records of Obama ‘Tapping’ Related to Russia Probes (Must Read Article)
Newsweek ^ | 03/05/2017 | Jeff Stein

Posted on 03/05/2017 2:32:36 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas

Contrary to some reports, President Trump is entitled to see any records related to the surveillance of him and his associates as “consumer-in-chief” of U.S.  intelligence, a Justice Department lawyer familiar with national security procedures says. That would include FBI and Justice Department (DOJ) applications for surveillance warrants to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or FISC.

“I don't see how DOJ and FBI can refuse... and the president has the authority to declassify whatever he wants...,” the official told Newsweek on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak with the media.

The White House does not need to get the court’s records, the official added, because “both DOJ and FBI would hold copies of all signed orders, and DOJ at least will have the applications, too.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deepstate; doj; fakenews; fbi; fisa; newsweek; nsa; obama; trump; wiretapping
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DOJ/FBI has copies of all FISA applications. Trump can demand to see the applications.
1 posted on 03/05/2017 2:32:36 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas
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To: SpeedyInTexas

You are assuming that this went through FISA. It may not have.


2 posted on 03/05/2017 2:34:02 PM PST by independentmind (In te Domine confido non confundar in aeternum)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Comey just turned on Trump (again).

I bet the Deep State has been shredding documents, sledge hammering hard drives, and sowing cover stories.

3 posted on 03/05/2017 2:34:57 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Unfortunately the media equates refusing to show copies of such orders with “No evidence of wiretapping”. The ignint public will believe the media.


4 posted on 03/05/2017 2:35:02 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Fox is also running some headlines and coverage against Trump. BS about Sessions “lying” and Trump “contacts” with Russians. This is all dog dirt.


5 posted on 03/05/2017 2:35:57 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
DOJ/FBI has copies of all FISA applications. Trump can demand to see the applications.

The 0bama/clinton operatives buried in these agencies have most likely "accidentally" already destroyed anything related.

6 posted on 03/05/2017 2:36:25 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Send 0bama and the Clintons to a Black Site IMMEDIATELY for rendition on charges of TREASON!)
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The annoying Democrat babbling is that Trump is wrong---they'll find nothing on Obama. CASE CLOSED b/c there was a FISA courts filing approved under the Obama Administration, (which resulted in no findings of wrongdoing).

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REALITY CHECK---It is entirely possible Obama and his legal team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by willfully withholding material information in order to manipulate the FISA court’s willingness to permit the government surveillance.

This would fall under the Crimes Act of 1958.

FALSIFYING GOVT DOCUMENTS---falsifying official documents is the criminal MO to hide larger crimes.

A person falsifying documents can be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years.

Also, if official government documents or govt authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. Legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting fact-based information
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

7 posted on 03/05/2017 2:36:39 PM PST by Liz (DNC Chair Perez's new Democrat slogan: Join us, or we'll sue Trump.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Right now it looks as though the entire “Russia Trump” allegation was only a sham intended to get access to Trump’s confidential campaign information.


8 posted on 03/05/2017 2:36:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: independentmind

To be more correct: The article is assuming that.


9 posted on 03/05/2017 2:37:18 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Bookmark


10 posted on 03/05/2017 2:38:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Trump completely nuked the ridiculous Russian hacking story.

Couterpunched and put Obola and his henchmen on notice.

Stop F'ing with my presidency, or your "legacy" and political party will be in smoldering ruins.

11 posted on 03/05/2017 2:38:50 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: independentmind
What are you suggesting...that there was no FISA, when we KNOW that there were two, with the first oine turned down and the second one okayed?
12 posted on 03/05/2017 2:40:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SkyPilot

It don’t work like that when it comes to securing these types of warrants at this level. There will be a substantial paper trail. There will be no “shredding” of these types of documents.


13 posted on 03/05/2017 2:41:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Liz

READ POST #7 CLOSELY


14 posted on 03/05/2017 2:42:19 PM PST by ptsal
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Additional Information:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3531734/posts

FISA Is Not Law-Enforcement – It’s Not Interference with Justice Department Independence for White House to Ask for FISA Information

In my earlier post, I explained that the Obama camp is disingenuously responding to revelations that, during the presidential campaign, the Obama administration conducted an investigation, including wiretapping, against Trump associates and perhaps Donald Trump himself. As I elaborated, one avenue of response is to conflate the Justice Department’s two missions – law-enforcement and national security. We can see this strategy playing out in the New York Times coverage of the controversy.

According to today’s Times report, a Trump official said that White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II is “working to secure access” to what is believed to be “an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates.” Presumably, this means the Trump White House is seeking to review the Justice Department’s applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) surveillance of Trump associates, and perhaps Trump himself, from June and October 2016, including any orders issued by the FISA court – as my post explains, it has been reported that the Obama Justice Department’s June application was denied, but its October application (which apparently did not name Trump) was granted.


15 posted on 03/05/2017 2:42:55 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Granted.

James Clapper denied the existence of a FISA warrant on one of the Sunday news shows. Trey Gowdy also denied knowledge of such a warrant. Gowdy also seemed rather anxious about disclosing sources and methods.

I am starting to think this operation was run by NSA with White House concurrence. And John Brennan fits somewhere into this.

I have suspected that Brennan has some personal exposure in his conduct while head of the CIA.


16 posted on 03/05/2017 2:43:39 PM PST by independentmind (In te Domine confido non confundar in aeternum)
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To: nopardons

We don’t know that. See Andrew McCarthy at NRO.


17 posted on 03/05/2017 2:44:30 PM PST by independentmind (In te Domine confido non confundar in aeternum)
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To: independentmind

We already know it did


18 posted on 03/05/2017 2:44:52 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: dila813

There ya go. Lets see the applications to secure the warrants.


19 posted on 03/05/2017 2:45:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SkyPilot

Not necessarily- the NY Times has anonymous sources claiming Comey said Obama didn’t order it, which could be true in that the order more likely came from Lynch or some other individual so as to leave him with plausible deniability, much as Hillary’s underlings understood to strip the classified markings from materials they transmitted for Hillary... without having to be ordered to do so. or it could be false and the times is just doing what Gowdy warned about and are just blowing snow.


20 posted on 03/05/2017 2:47:05 PM PST by piasa
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