Posted on 03/05/2017 2:32:36 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas
Contrary to some reports, President Trump is entitled to see any records related to the surveillance of him and his associates as consumer-in-chief of U.S. intelligence, a Justice Department lawyer familiar with national security procedures says. That would include FBI and Justice Department (DOJ) applications for surveillance warrants to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or FISC.
I don't see how DOJ and FBI can refuse... and the president has the authority to declassify whatever he wants..., the official told Newsweek on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak with the media.
The White House does not need to get the courts records, the official added, because both DOJ and FBI would hold copies of all signed orders, and DOJ at least will have the applications, too.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
You are assuming that this went through FISA. It may not have.
I bet the Deep State has been shredding documents, sledge hammering hard drives, and sowing cover stories.
Unfortunately the media equates refusing to show copies of such orders with “No evidence of wiretapping”. The ignint public will believe the media.
Fox is also running some headlines and coverage against Trump. BS about Sessions “lying” and Trump “contacts” with Russians. This is all dog dirt.
The 0bama/clinton operatives buried in these agencies have most likely "accidentally" already destroyed anything related.
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REALITY CHECK---It is entirely possible Obama and his legal team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by willfully withholding material information in order to manipulate the FISA courts willingness to permit the government surveillance.
This would fall under the Crimes Act of 1958.
FALSIFYING GOVT DOCUMENTS---falsifying official documents is the criminal MO to hide larger crimes.
A person falsifying documents can be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.
Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility
Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years.
Also, if official government documents or govt authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. Legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.
Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting fact-based information
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document
The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.
Right now it looks as though the entire “Russia Trump” allegation was only a sham intended to get access to Trump’s confidential campaign information.
To be more correct: The article is assuming that.
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Couterpunched and put Obola and his henchmen on notice.
Stop F'ing with my presidency, or your "legacy" and political party will be in smoldering ruins.
It don’t work like that when it comes to securing these types of warrants at this level. There will be a substantial paper trail. There will be no “shredding” of these types of documents.
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FISA Is Not Law-Enforcement Its Not Interference with Justice Department Independence for White House to Ask for FISA Information
In my earlier post, I explained that the Obama camp is disingenuously responding to revelations that, during the presidential campaign, the Obama administration conducted an investigation, including wiretapping, against Trump associates and perhaps Donald Trump himself. As I elaborated, one avenue of response is to conflate the Justice Departments two missions law-enforcement and national security. We can see this strategy playing out in the New York Times coverage of the controversy.
According to todays Times report, a Trump official said that White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II is working to secure access to what is believed to be an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. Presumably, this means the Trump White House is seeking to review the Justice Departments applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) surveillance of Trump associates, and perhaps Trump himself, from June and October 2016, including any orders issued by the FISA court as my post explains, it has been reported that the Obama Justice Departments June application was denied, but its October application (which apparently did not name Trump) was granted.
Granted.
James Clapper denied the existence of a FISA warrant on one of the Sunday news shows. Trey Gowdy also denied knowledge of such a warrant. Gowdy also seemed rather anxious about disclosing sources and methods.
I am starting to think this operation was run by NSA with White House concurrence. And John Brennan fits somewhere into this.
I have suspected that Brennan has some personal exposure in his conduct while head of the CIA.
We don’t know that. See Andrew McCarthy at NRO.
We already know it did
There ya go. Lets see the applications to secure the warrants.
Not necessarily- the NY Times has anonymous sources claiming Comey said Obama didn’t order it, which could be true in that the order more likely came from Lynch or some other individual so as to leave him with plausible deniability, much as Hillary’s underlings understood to strip the classified markings from materials they transmitted for Hillary... without having to be ordered to do so. or it could be false and the times is just doing what Gowdy warned about and are just blowing snow.
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