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Why is Obama using a spokesperson to deny wiretap? Former speech writer says there’s a catch
Mediaite ^ | 4 Mar 2017 | Carmine Sabia

Posted on 03/04/2017 3:17:08 PM PST by mandaladon

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To: mandaladon
They're hoping to round up the usual frightened Republicans:


Dan Pfeiffer
@danpfeiffer

Have any elected Republicans had the courage to speak out against Trump's deeply, deranged tweets this morning?

41 posted on 03/04/2017 4:24:50 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: mandaladon

Of course it is. Obama cannot answer because it isn’t available, much like Benghazi.

The DOJ of the Obama’s regime was all over the place.

Hell, Even little ole me got a visit from Homeland on a thread we had years ago. The subject matter was irrelevant.

They left and I never heard from them again.

Obama is an evil man. Do not be discouraged. Trump will end it.


42 posted on 03/04/2017 4:32:55 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: COBOL2Java
Wouldn’t it be funny if Obama—not Putin—turned out to be the Rasputin figure trying to rig the November election?

Left-wingers often accuse their enemies of what they themselves are in the process of doing, or have done.

43 posted on 03/04/2017 4:36:26 PM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: Az Joe
Obama couldn’t “order” it of course. But he could “cause” it to be ordered.

Obama hired people who had the talent of knowing exactly what needed to be done without being told to do it.

44 posted on 03/04/2017 4:36:50 PM PST by Drew68
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To: mandaladon

If a spokesman does all the denying then Hussein thinks he stays out of a perjury rap. The spokesmen stay out of it, too because they are passing on someone else’s information as mouthpieces who obviously don’t know whether it is true or not.


45 posted on 03/04/2017 4:37:39 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: mandaladon

Plausible deniability invoked.


46 posted on 03/04/2017 4:39:46 PM PST by Will88
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To: dhs12345

It may be difficult for Trump’s people to get the records. A large part of the agency is obfuscating and slow-walking and deleting.


47 posted on 03/04/2017 4:39:59 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: mandaladon

Why would you have to have such a “cardinal rule” when it should be obvious for any official to begin with?


48 posted on 03/04/2017 4:42:58 PM PST by piasa
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To: Inkie
Gruber said the president can’t order a wire tap.

50 U.S.C. WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE
CHAPTER 36 - FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE
SUBCHAPTER I - ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE Sec. 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal; duties and compensation of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court
(a)(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

49 posted on 03/04/2017 4:47:54 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Inkie
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title50/html/USCODE-2011-title50-chap36-subchapI-sec1802.htm
50 posted on 03/04/2017 4:49:52 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: arthurus

Agreed. I would expect them to obstruct justice. Pretty serious stuff.


51 posted on 03/04/2017 4:50:09 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: philman_36

interesting


52 posted on 03/04/2017 4:50:53 PM PST by piasa
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To: Richard from IL

Richard from IL wrote:

“Note the word ordered in the non denial denial. All he had to do was to suggest it, and it would have been done.”

Dong, ding, ding!

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Good parse!


53 posted on 03/04/2017 4:51:27 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: mandaladon

Who thought this was an “independent” investigation?


54 posted on 03/04/2017 4:51:58 PM PST by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention. Chalk one up for creativity!)
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To: piasa

It does leave a paper trail a mile long. See 50 for the hyperlink, which I missed the first time.


55 posted on 03/04/2017 4:53:01 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: TomGuy

“independent investigation”

It is EXACTLY what they DID say - but not what you THOUGHT they said.


56 posted on 03/04/2017 4:53:25 PM PST by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention. Chalk one up for creativity!)
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To: WildHighlander57
All he had to do was to suggest it, and it would have been done.”

My reply earlier on another thread.
What if this were changed just a bit?

...neither President Obama nor any White House official ever requested surveillance on any U.S. citizen.

57 posted on 03/04/2017 4:58:10 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title50/html/USCODE-2011-title50-chap36-subchapI-sec1802.htm

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Using 50 USC 1802 would require the Attorney General to certify certain things in writing, under oath. If this is how the wiretapping was authorized then there is a definite paper trail.

Lynch may be in deep chit due to “B” which clearly states that “there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and......

I think it was authorized via FISA.


58 posted on 03/04/2017 4:59:53 PM PST by LouisianaJoanof Arc (Proud horrible deplorable)
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To: LouisianaJoanof Arc
...then there is a definite paper trail.

See 55.

59 posted on 03/04/2017 5:03:39 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: dhs12345

Considering what the CIA does as a normal thing, I worry about them obstructing breathing.


60 posted on 03/04/2017 5:07:54 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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