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Trump to Undo Vehicle Rules That Curb Global Warming
New York Times ^ | March 3, 2017 | CORAL DAVENPORT

Posted on 03/04/2017 4:22:33 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

essentially marking a U-turn to efforts to force the American auto industry to produce more electric cars.


Where do liberals think electricity comes from? The Gaia Faerie?


61 posted on 03/04/2017 10:35:41 AM PST by samtheman (ObamaGate = Watergate Squared)
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To: TheBattman

My tuned 1 ton duramax can do 33mpg in the mountains withy sled deck on it and all my drawers with tools. I have a total of about 2,000 lbs on.

They need to stop tampering with our stuff and let the manufacturers make us what we want, because a stock truck would never do that.


62 posted on 03/04/2017 11:18:13 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: BwanaNdege
I worked 16 years for a refining company.
This was before E-85. We had 1 oil, 2 oil, winter grade 2 oil, light cycle oil (like a 4 oil) clarified (residual) oil, jet, kerosene, propane, asphalt and one or two other products.
My job was to sell the residual oil. We made 5,000 bbl/day and had one 50,000 bbl tank to store it in. My job was to earn the best netback on every gallon, but my ass would be in a sling if I ran the tank over...
63 posted on 03/04/2017 11:37:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: cyclotic
Before I found a (more distant) gas station that sells "RV" 100% gasoline for a ~$0.50/gal premium, I bought a 5 gal can of Sunoco Race gas for ~ $60 for a brand new lawnmower.

The Race Gas smelled just like gasoline used to when I wuz a kid. Probably Benzene or such.

64 posted on 03/04/2017 12:29:47 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"my ass would be in a sling if I ran the tank over... "

You just needed a cracker tower in your back yard....

65 posted on 03/04/2017 12:31:19 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: SandRat

That has nothing to do with these emissions/fuel economy regulations. That is what the average buyer wants to buy and was even before the Obama years.


66 posted on 03/04/2017 12:56:17 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Hoxey Puck it doesn’t. This all started With “Jimmie” Carter!


67 posted on 03/04/2017 1:05:04 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Paladin2

There are no such stations in Maryland. Nanny state is out of complete control here


68 posted on 03/04/2017 1:05:51 PM PST by cyclotic (Republicans Are without excuse. Flood the Resolute Desk with sane legislation.)
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To: SandRat

You do know that higher profile vehicles and larger wheels *reduce* fuel economy, not increase it, right?

Larger wheel and tire is something that has been increasingly popular since the 1980s. You essentially can’t find new aftermarket wheels under 17” and more and most are over 19”.

Taller vehicles have been a design decision driven by women - women found they want to see over everything and when they discovered SUVs they fell in love. Women are driving the increased height of new vehicles.


69 posted on 03/04/2017 1:11:33 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Fat people are driving the market for taller vehicles. And ground clearance is becoming more important as roads deteriorate.

Big diameter wheels are just for looks (looks that I don’t get). Faster cars do actually need bigger wheels to accommodate larger brakes, so they must be ‘sporty’ when on mundane cars, I guess.


70 posted on 03/04/2017 1:27:25 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Charles Martel
Yo, “Shadow Government”... bend over.

The Trump Train keeps chugging along. And the President tweets insults to Obama, daring him to come out of his hidey hole...


71 posted on 03/04/2017 1:40:44 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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Roll back the idiotic CAFE rules. The rats think you can toss the laws of physics. If he does not these back will be forced to drive golf carts within 5 years. I am not exaggerating. The rules add thousands to the price of cars.


72 posted on 03/04/2017 2:46:39 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: reaganaut1

Cars should be stylish as they were in the past and not the same vehicle with different name plate as too many are today.


73 posted on 03/04/2017 2:51:45 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Bulwyf

33mpg.... in a Duramax? Ummmm.... I’ve got plenty of friends with Duramax (Chevy 2500) trucks... and the ones with the best tunes get maybe 22 on long highway trips.


74 posted on 03/04/2017 4:44:15 PM PST by TheBattman (Gun control works - just ask Chicago...)
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To: reaganaut1

we’re doomed.


75 posted on 03/04/2017 5:09:57 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: TheBattman

I’m deleted and tuned up, no silly def fluid for me.

I don’t think you can come close if one keeps the def system.


76 posted on 03/04/2017 7:50:23 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Paladin2
The refinery had four large coker towers since the crude was mostly heavy Canadian.
The resid was after the crack. -4 gravity.

Try to explain the benefits of monster BTUs but it needs some heat...

77 posted on 03/04/2017 8:27:00 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: reaganaut1

Almost all of the cars today in the US have to meet national emissions/controls standards. The newer EPA regulations were trying to squeeze the last drop out of pollution control at a great economic cost to the average citizen. They wanted to implement these rules despite their knowing about the concept of “the damage caused by the rule of diminishing returns” (i.e., more rules eventually reach the point of no return for their objectives but at great cost to the economy/citizens).

Also, the EPA was after almost all diesel engines that they accused of creating more pollution (only the older engines might do some), ignoring the fact that most newer engines are very good at controlling pollution emissions.

They were also after ships, trucks, trains and planes that used any kind of diesel fuel, with the hidden goal of getting them off the streets and exerting a totalitarian control over the transportation industry, thus destroying tens of thousands of jobs (maybe more).

Lawn-mowers are also included in this environmental coup attempt, as are some gasoline-powered tools (leaf-blowers, generators I think, etc).

The EPA over the decades has often been run by Marxists/socialists (Carol Browner and Lisa Jackson) with terrible results while giving political cover to some states for their disasterous policies regarding environmental cleanups such as California’s “Stringfellow” extremely costly fiasco case and the more recent King Gold Mine holding damn destruction and subsequent pollution of major rivers in New Mexico.

A major overhaul of the EPA and a purge of its extreme leftist leaders should happen ASAP but with the knowledge that many EPA workers are conscientious, sane, and professional people who have been forced to promulgate policies that have had the exact opposite effect of what was desired.


78 posted on 03/04/2017 11:25:01 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NonValueAdded

We’ve had ever-increasing regulations for automobiles, factories, etc. for decades now. I have never once heard an environmentalist puke say, “Things are getting better with the steps we’ve taken. We have a ways to go, but things are getting better.” Never. Just, “OMG the sky is falling we need more regulations it’s not enough it’s never enough.”


79 posted on 03/04/2017 11:27:12 PM PST by Rastus
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To: pas
Shouldn’t his greatness have stopped it?

Hey he did stop the oceans from rising, give him a break.

80 posted on 03/05/2017 6:12:11 AM PST by itsahoot
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