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White House now says American steel not required for Keystone pipeline
Washington Times ^ | 3/3/17 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 03/03/2017 9:50:36 PM PST by 198ml

President Trump’s pledge that new pipeline projects will use “American steel” will not apply to the Keystone XL project, according to media reports, directly contradicting the president’s own words last week. Politico reported late Thursday night that a White House spokeswoman explained that the project, which has been in the works for the past decade, does not count as a “new” or “retrofitted” pipeline, and therefore is not subject to Mr. Trump’s made-in-America requirement. Comments from TransCanada, the company proposing the project, on Friday morning seem to confirm the firm will not be forced to use all U.S. steel.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ignorantjournalism; keystone; obamafoulup; obamamistake; obamascrewup; oil; steel; whitehouse

1 posted on 03/03/2017 9:50:36 PM PST by 198ml
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To: 198ml

Fine. Trump’s a builder. Build it.


2 posted on 03/03/2017 10:00:55 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: 198ml
This same article was posted an hour or two ago and it is very poorly written. It omits key information that makes a very reasonable statement sound like a slam on the Trump Administration. By the way, "Search works"

Here are excepts from a much better article in the Globe and Mail that clarifies the situation. In fact, half of the pipe which has already been purchased by Transcanada for this job was made in the USA.

----- Avoiding a “Buy American” provision championed by Mr. Trump removes a major impediment to TransCanada proceeding with the $8-billion (U.S.) project that was rejected by the Obama administration in 2015 amid widespread opposition by environmentalists. TransCanada had already bought most of the pipe.

With an executive order in January, Mr. Trump set the wheels in motion for the Calgary-based company to resurrect the project. On the same day, he instructed his Commerce Department to devise a plan to ensure pipeline companies use U.S. steel in new, expanded or retrofitted pipelines “to the maximum extent possible.”

“It’s specific to new pipelines or those that are being repaired,” White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders told reporters on Air Force One on Friday. “Since this one is already currently under construction, the steel is already literally sitting there, it’s hard to go back. Everything moving forward would fall under that executive order.”

(snip) TransCanada resubmitted its application in late January, and this week suspended a $15-billion challenge to Mr. Obama’s rejection under the North American free-trade agreement. The different timings of Mr. Trump’s Keystone XL revival and Buy American memoranda mean the project could be approved before the steel policy comes into force, saiThe different timings of Mr. Trump’s Keystone XL revival and Buy American memoranda mean the project could be approved before the steel policy comes into force, said Kortni Hadley, a lawyer in the corporate section of Carter Ledyard & Milburn LLP, a New York firm that deals in U.S.-Canada issues. The State Department must make a decision on the pipeline within 60 days of the application, while the Commerce Department has 180 days to formulate the pipeline steel policy.

“So there’s not actually a Buy American rule in place at this point in which Keystone would be subject to,” Ms. Hadley said.

TransCanada would not comment directly on the Buy American issue, or whether it has been told that it is exempt. However, spokesman Terry Cunha pointed out that half the pipe the company purchased in 2012 for Keystone XL was manufactured in the United States, and that 75 per cent originated in North America.

3 posted on 03/03/2017 10:03:31 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: 198ml

Given that a good portion of the construction is in Canada, either making allowances for Canadian steel or noting that the requirement does not apply to the portion built outside of the U.S. would seem reaonable.


4 posted on 03/03/2017 10:14:16 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: 198ml

Steel is a generic term for a whole family of metals that contain iron. I don’t know what the requirements are for a pipeline but it may very well be that a steel with the required tensile strength and welding characteristics is not available in the US.


5 posted on 03/03/2017 10:25:42 PM PST by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: bigbob

In other words the pipe has already been bought.


6 posted on 03/03/2017 11:22:25 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Headline: White House now says American steel not required for Keystone pipeline
   --- opposed to ---
Article: [materials] not subject to Mr. Trump’s made-in-America requirement.

If believe Reuters donated that cunning headline.
7 posted on 03/03/2017 11:45:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fella

Indeed. It’s disturbing how a simple one line explanation can be twisted into a feverish lefty narrative.


8 posted on 03/04/2017 12:38:16 AM PST by Enduro Guy (President Trump 2017-2025/President Pence 2025-2033)
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To: bigbob

“Since this one is already currently under construction, the steel is already literally sitting there, it’s hard to go back.”

And if the pipe isn’t sitting there right now, the pipeline company entered into contracts with the suppliers long ago. Off course the liberal media things it is terrible that Trump doesn’t make a private firm break it’s legal contract with another firm.

“Hey - isn’t that what government is supposed to do? I mean if we can make a baker bake a cake for a gay couple at gunpoint we sure should be able to make companies buy American steel!?”

And I’m guessing that the “American steel” requirement is more of an incentive program? I can see for a Federal project that they can have a line item in there specifying that only American Steel be used - but how can they force a private pipeline company to do it? I suppose they could pose it in the form of quality and safety - any steel used has to be certified as per some U.S. agency or something. Or if it is running on an easement through federal land they could specify it.


9 posted on 03/04/2017 12:48:24 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: fella

Exactly. If the pipe has already been made and paid for; it’s not like they can just throw it away and make new pipe made in the USA without losing a lot of money. Then what do they do with all the pipe already made. Makes no sense. Going forward with new pipe purchases, if there is any, sure, but otherwise no.


10 posted on 03/04/2017 1:24:17 AM PST by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: 198ml
This article is mis-information. President Trump said that because the steel pipe had been previously purchased, it would not have to be purchased a second time.

This is a result of the Obama Administration bungling.

11 posted on 03/04/2017 1:42:50 AM PST by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: 198ml

So, this will be the headline of the day and probably the whole weekend. Trump lied. Dems demand an investigation. Pelosi, Schumer, McCain and Miss Lindsay demand he resign.


12 posted on 03/04/2017 2:05:33 AM PST by SMM48
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To: bigbob
I went to the joint address to congress transcript because I thought the President said the pipeline would be built with American steel Tuesday night. The transcript shows that's not what he said, exactly. But as it was stated, it would be easy to draw the conclusion that American steel would be used.

Here's what he said: We have cleared the way for the construction of the Keystone and Dakota Access Pipelines — thereby creating tens of thousands of jobs — and I’ve issued a new directive that new American pipelines be made with American steel.

My conclusion was since this wasn't already built, it would fall under the directive. In other words, he wasn't clear.

13 posted on 03/04/2017 2:19:03 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: 198ml

The “Made in America” requirements were well-intentioned but kind of silly to begin with. They only applied to international projects that require presidential approval, so you ended up with a domestic steel requirement that didn’t even apply to a domestic pipeline that could be thousands of miles long.


14 posted on 03/04/2017 2:39:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: fella

A large portion of it yes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=keystone+xl+pipe+sitting&biw=1185&bih=557&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinjM232LzSAhUIhlQKHaF6B8cQ_AUIBygC


15 posted on 03/04/2017 2:57:50 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It's a war against humanity!" Donald J. Trump)
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To: fella
In other words the pipe has already been bought....

Not only bought but there is a lot of pipe already staged along the route. It has been staged for a couple years here in North Dakota.

16 posted on 03/04/2017 4:12:26 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: 198ml

Just get it built. This thing does no one any good until its in the ground. We need to get on with it.

Every day we spend talking about it is another day we bring oil in from overseas. Every barrel of oil this pipeline carries is a barrel of oil we aren’t bringing in by ship from across the horizon.


17 posted on 03/04/2017 5:14:39 AM PST by marron
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To: Fai Mao

Many US steel mills take in ore and scrap from overseas or Canada. The pipe is sill American...


18 posted on 03/04/2017 5:34:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: 198ml

That’s not what he said.
He said they would use the already purchased stuff first and they’d only need new American pipe if they ran out before the job was done.


19 posted on 03/04/2017 6:21:19 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Democrats haven't been this aggitated since Lincoln took away their slaves.)
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