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Democrats Admit to Being Lobbied by Russia, China and Europe Before Backing Iran Nuclear Deal
cnsnews.com ^ | Sept. 3, 2015 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 03/02/2017 9:02:21 AM PST by HarleyLady27

(CNSNews.com) – More than a dozen of the 34 Democratic senators who have declared their support for the Iran nuclear agreement cited arguments by America’s five negotiating partners that there would be no better deal forthcoming if the U.S. rejects this one.

On Wednesday, the number of senators to have publicly stated support for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) climbed to 34 – all Democrats – thereby giving President Obama the backing he needs to sustain his veto of a Republican-led resolution disapproving it, which is expected to pass by mid-September.

As previously undecided senators one by one came out in support of the agreement over the past month, references in their statements to the views of the other P5+1 governments involved in the negotiations – Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany – were strikingly common.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; europe; irandeal; russia
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1 posted on 03/02/2017 9:02:21 AM PST by HarleyLady27
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To: HarleyLady27; Jane Long; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Black Agnes; djstex; RoosterRedux; DoughtyOne; ...

Ping...

This is an old article, but it proves that the Democrats met with Russia and other countries to sure up the Iran Deal that Barky pushed through...the $250 Billion deal...


2 posted on 03/02/2017 9:03:37 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Ryan Ruck

ping


3 posted on 03/02/2017 9:04:33 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: HarleyLady27

Good find!


4 posted on 03/02/2017 9:06:53 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance**** BIGLY!!!! Shadilay!)
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To: HarleyLady27

It’s called trade partners...and it’s about sanctions...


5 posted on 03/02/2017 9:07:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s called ‘TREASON’ by the POTUS at that TIME!!!

This was not passed by Congress, it was done over the dark cover of night!!!


6 posted on 03/02/2017 9:11:41 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Proves that the Russians influenced US Senators’ policy votes

Aka hacking


7 posted on 03/02/2017 9:13:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: HarleyLady27
From your article......

As previously undecided senators one by one came out in support of the agreement over the past month, references in their statements to the views of the other P5+1 governments involved in the negotiations – Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany – were strikingly common.

Many of them attended a briefing by ambassadors from those countries in early August.

When she announced her support for the deal on August 6, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said, “In a meeting earlier this week, when I questioned the ambassadors of our P5+1 allies, it also became clear that if we reject this deal, going back to the negotiation table is not an option.”

Four days later Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) said she had asked the ambassadors of the five other countries involved in the talks “detailed questions about what their countries and others would do if Congress does not approve the agreement.”

“[N]ot one of them believed that abandoning this deal would result in a better deal,” she said. Instead, “international consensus” would splinter, sanctions would unravel and Iran’s nuclear program would be left unconstrained.

On Aug. 13, Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) also referred to the ambassadors’ briefing.

8 posted on 03/02/2017 9:14:43 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: HarleyLady27

FYI....here’s a direct link to the article (and source)....

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/democrat-senators-lobbied-russia-china-and-europe-deciding-back-iran


9 posted on 03/02/2017 9:14:59 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long
AMEN!!! I didn't read the name of Jeff Sessions anywhere in that article...

Yes, Jeff Sessions, when he was a Senator met with a lot of people including Russian Ambassadors...it was his JOB at that time...

10 posted on 03/02/2017 9:16:45 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

The rats may have removed that link!

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The requested URL “/news/article/patrick-goodenough/democrat-senators-lobbied-russia-china-and-europe-deciding” was not found on this server.


11 posted on 03/02/2017 9:16:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (We are winning every day, while the Dems and Never Trumpsters are whining every day!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Glass dwelling rock throwers should measure their enthusiasm.


12 posted on 03/02/2017 9:17:20 AM PST by blackdog
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To: HarleyLady27

Maybe Putin can publish the names of any current and past rat congressits, who have talked to any Russians during the Obama years.

Then, the evil Russians can document: the date, time, place and the name of the Russians talking to the rats.


13 posted on 03/02/2017 9:18:24 AM PST by Grampa Dave (We are winning every day, while the Dems and Never Trumpsters are whining every day!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

For you Grampa:

CNSNews.com) – More than a dozen of the 34 Democratic senators who have declared their support for the Iran nuclear agreement cited arguments by America’s five negotiating partners that there would be no better deal forthcoming if the U.S. rejects this one.

On Wednesday, the number of senators to have publicly stated support for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) climbed to 34 – all Democrats – thereby giving President Obama the backing he needs to sustain his veto of a Republican-led resolution disapproving it, which is expected to pass by mid-September.

As previously undecided senators one by one came out in support of the agreement over the past month, references in their statements to the views of the other P5+1 governments involved in the negotiations – Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany – were strikingly common.

Many of them attended a briefing by ambassadors from those countries in early August.

When she announced her support for the deal on August 6, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said, “In a meeting earlier this week, when I questioned the ambassadors of our P5+1 allies, it also became clear that if we reject this deal, going back to the negotiation table is not an option.”

Four days later Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) said she had asked the ambassadors of the five other countries involved in the talks “detailed questions about what their countries and others would do if Congress does not approve the agreement.”

“[N]ot one of them believed that abandoning this deal would result in a better deal,” she said. Instead, “international consensus” would splinter, sanctions would unravel and Iran’s nuclear program would be left unconstrained.

On Aug. 13, Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) also referred to the ambassadors’ briefing.

“[S]ome say that, should the Senate reject this agreement, we would be in position to negotiate a ‘better’ one,” he wrote. “But I’ve spoken to representatives of the five nations that helped broker the deal, and they agree that this simply wouldn’t be the case.

Instead, these diplomats have told me that we would not be able to come back to the bargaining table at all, and that the sanctions regime would likely erode or even fall apart…”

“[A]t a recent meeting of leaders from our partner nations, I specifically asked the ambassadors to the U.S. from China, the United Kingdom, and Russia whether their countries would come back to negotiate again should the U.S. walk away from the deal,” Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) said on Aug. 17.

“They unanimously said, ‘No,’ that there was already a deal – the one before Congress.”

“I have no reason to disbelieve all five governments [Russia, China, Britain, France, Germany] speaking together,” said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) on Aug. 18. “I have heard their warnings that if we walk away from this agreement before even giving it a try, the prospect of further multilateral negotiations yielding any better result is ‘far-fetched.’”

“This agreement is not perfect, but I have personally spoken to leaders representing the P5+1 countries and the European Union who have said quite clearly that if the United States rejects this agreement, they will not join in new negotiations for a better deal,” Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) said on Aug 24.

“There are those who say that we should go back to the negotiating table and try to get a better deal,” Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) said on Aug. 25. “I respect that view, but I have heard directly from top ambassadors representing our P5+1 partners as well as members of the administration that starting over is not an option.”

“Earlier this month, several of my colleagues and I met with representatives of our five negotiating partners,” Sen. Thomas Carper (D-Dela.) said on Aug. 28.

“They told us bluntly that if Congress kills this deal, the broad coalition of countries imposing sanctions on Iran would collapse,” he said. “If Congress rejects this deal now, a better one will not take its place, they declared.”

Menendez challenges ‘take it or leave it’ argument

Other JCPOA supporters who mentioned having taken into account the views of the other P5+1 ambassadors included Sens. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Chris Coons (D-Dela.) and Robert Casey (D-Pa.).

One of just two Democratic senators to have come out in opposition to the JCPOA, Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), challenged the notion that the other P5+1 countries would simply walk away from sanctions if the U.S. rejected the JCPOA and pushed for a better deal.

In his speech announcing his intention to vote to disapprove the deal, Menendez said the attraction of doing business with the United States would far outweigh the lure of Iran’s much smaller economy.

“Despite what some of our P5+1 ambassadors have said in trying to rally support for the agreement, and echoing the administration’s admonition, that it is a take it or leave it proposition, our P5+1 partners will still be worried about Iran’s nuclear weapon desires and the capability to achieve it,” he said.

“They, and the businesses from their countries, and elsewhere, will truly care more about their ability to do business in a U.S. economy of $17 trillion than an Iranian economy of $415 billion,” Menendez said.

He was alluding to U.S. secondary sanctions, which would close the U.S. marketplace to companies and banks that do business with Iran.


14 posted on 03/02/2017 9:19:37 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Not to mention various American companies, foreign companies, and multinationals...


15 posted on 03/02/2017 9:19:58 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Jane Long

Great link!

We need more good info like this.

Maybe Putin can publish the names of any current and past rat congressits, who have talked to any Russians during the Obama years.

Then, the evil Russians can document: the date, time, place and the name of the Russians talking to the rats.


16 posted on 03/02/2017 9:21:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave (We are winning every day, while the Dems and Never Trumpsters are whining every day!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Thanks. Below is a link from Jane.

FYI....here’s a direct link to the article (and source)....

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/democrat-senators-lobbied-russia-china-and-europe-deciding-back-iran


17 posted on 03/02/2017 9:28:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (We are winning every day, while the Dems and Never Trumpsters are whining every day!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

How many of those rats got money and other hidden benefits from those countries?


18 posted on 03/02/2017 9:31:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (We are winning every day, while the Dems and Never Trumpsters are whining every day!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Here:

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/democrat-senators-lobbied-russia-china-and-europe-deciding-back-iran


19 posted on 03/02/2017 9:37:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Grampa Dave

GP, it can be found in the Wayback Machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20160108145603/http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/democrat-senators-lobbied-russia-china-and-europe-deciding-back-iran


20 posted on 03/02/2017 9:38:46 AM PST by V K Lee (If all the nations in the world are in debt, where did all the money go?)
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