[ctdonath2]

BTW, CA: the Civil War sparked when the South fired on Fort Sumpter. Whatever the condition & occupancy thereof, ANY violent assault on US property (including foreign military bases) WILL be met with dominating force to retain control of that property, up to and including the complete overthrow of any government asserting control over that property.

To wit: I contend the Civil War occurred as it did because the USA does not relent ownership of military bases located in foreign countries (see Guantanamo) without negotiation and unilateral consent, reserving the sovereign right to defend those bases at all costs; the CSA did not negotiate ownership of Fort Sumpter, the USA did not relent ownership, and the CSA attempted to take it by force - and the abject refusal to relent ownership claims was resolved by overthrowing the CSA government. As such, I suggest that if CA wishes to secede in peace, it must not initiate violence, and writing a >$2.7T check will help immensely.

[Bryanw92]

It was Fort Sumter.

[RipSawyer]

“..the South fired on Fort Sumpter.”

Sumter, there is no P in the word.

[central_va]

How could the south negotiate when Lincoln refused multiple peace delegations? Lincoln wanted that war as much as anyone did.

Sumter not Sumpter.