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1 posted on 02/20/2017 5:53:32 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 02/20/2017 5:55:06 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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The Palestinians can their own state, but they cannot have Israel.


4 posted on 02/20/2017 6:09:47 AM PST by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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The palies play for the long haul. Problem with that is that the agreement they’ll agree to is always greener in the future.

They observe correctly, and all too well, that the US is schizophrenic. 8 years of varying degrees of republican (more friendly to Israel) see-sawing with 8 years of ‘Rat (more friendly to palies).

They’ll probably just plan to sit the next 8 years out, and wait for the almost inevitable ‘Rat that in their minds must surely follow post-Trump. And, with the history of the last 20 years as a guide, where each ‘Rat POTUS is more and more cozy to the palies, whose to say that the next ‘Rat after Øbama, the most palie-friendly POTUS in US history, will be even more pro-palie than Ø himself.


5 posted on 02/20/2017 6:15:19 AM PST by C210N
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The Palestine's can find another ‘patch’ of ground...they think they can ‘park themselves’ where ever they want...then they should go ‘park themselves’ in Iran, Iraq, Turkey...

Israel does not have to give up anything to these cretins...NOTHING...

6 posted on 02/20/2017 6:16:23 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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There will never be an independent west bank. It will never happen. I feel quite comfortable to say that, even knowing that the internet has a long memory and if I’m wrong I would some day have to eat my words.

But separate from Israel, and separate from Jordan, the arab west bank has no economy, no trade, no manufacturing, no source of employment, no window to the world that doesn’t go through Tel Aviv or Amman.

And quite frankly the people on the arab side at least who govern there have no interest in building an economy, they have no interest in building any state at all. The only thing that makes them important, the only reason the world beats a path to their door and the money flows and the diplomats scoot back and forth to see them is war and the threat of war, terrorism and the threat of terrorism.

In the absence of war, they would be mere backwater mayors of a backwater city of no importance. These guys didn’t come to Palestine hoping to be mayors worrying over storm gutters and trash removal, making municipal salaries to settle petty grievances between city utility departments. That is not what they are there for. To imagine otherwise is to kid yourself about who these people are.

So, if the west bank will never be independent, what then is the path forward? Simple, though maybe not easy. The land is under Israeli control, so accept that as reality. Israel should simply stop discussing it. Settle it, develop it, govern it, and get on with it. Arabs who don’t mind living under Israeli governance can stay, if they cause no trouble, and the rest can seek lives elsewhere.


7 posted on 02/20/2017 6:25:14 AM PST by marron
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Why does anyone think a two-state situation will happen?? The PA has said that they will never accept a two-state solution. The destruction of Israel is their goal. Period. And we give them boatloads of money.......why should they want to build a Palestine? They would rather have the issue than ANY solution.


9 posted on 02/20/2017 6:32:53 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Trump’s position should be, and I believe it is, that he favors a one-state, two-state, three- or four-state solution, whatever the people themselves favor, he will support. Its not his call, not his business, his only declared position is that whatever the people on the ground decide is right for them, the US stands with Israel.


10 posted on 02/20/2017 6:33:20 AM PST by marron
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If Dersh is right, the single state (Israel) will be majority Muslim.


12 posted on 02/20/2017 8:13:13 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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The Moslem Jihadi in Israel have no right to steal Jewish land and declare a state. They need to be destroyed like the rabble death cult they are.


13 posted on 02/20/2017 8:19:42 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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The “Palestinians”, a made up people, have always had a two-state solution: Israel and Jordan. As originally designed. Jordan unfortunately has been way too successful in buying off the UK, especially, and the West.

There is the simple answer.


14 posted on 02/20/2017 8:27:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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The Two-State solution has been OFFERED QUITE A FEW TIMES.

What the media never tells people .. THE PALESTINIANS ALWAYS VOTE AGAINST IT .. even though they have been all over the media whining how awful Israel is because they won’t comply with what Palestine wants.

ENOUGH ..!!!!!


15 posted on 02/20/2017 4:54:15 PM PST by CyberAnt (Peace Through Strength)
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