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Where Did The Uninsured Go Under ObamaCare? Not Where You Think
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 2/17/2017 | John Merline

Posted on 02/17/2017 4:06:09 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

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To: scope721

Except MUCH more expensively, but at least you get to give up your privacy and freedom.


21 posted on 02/17/2017 5:10:55 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2111USMC

Pray you don’t have a heart attack.


To quote the Apostle Paul: To live is Christ and to die is gain.

I see this life as sort of a video game, or the Matrix. Another way to look at it is as though it is the womb. And death is birth - into the REAL world.

At 63, with all of our kids gone for a LONG time, we are both ready for the Lord to call us at any time. Interestingly, I was just listening to I Cor this morning. And in chapter seven it teaches this:
“29 What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not;

30 those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep;

31 those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.”

I am in, but not of the world. I do not fear death, and I also know that the Lord will not heap on me more than I can bear.


22 posted on 02/17/2017 5:17:30 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: Gaffer

Which makes sense since a large number of uninsured would have been the working poor who could not afford insurance. So instead of just dealing with that group he created a frankenstein.


23 posted on 02/17/2017 5:22:19 AM PST by pas
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To: Gaffer

Who wants to bet me, that Juan Williams will jump up and down and misrepresent this statistic every chance he gets, and no one on The Five will counter him with the facts?


24 posted on 02/17/2017 5:35:48 AM PST by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: 2111USMC

The writer seems shocked the increase in coverage was due to an increase in folks on government programs vs private insurance. That was and remains the libs goal. Single payer. The system was designed for the insurance companies to participate, fail, take the blame, then everyone look to Uncle Sam.

I don’t think many Americans understand most company provided insurance is self insurance and the insurance companies just manage the traffic and administer the plans.


25 posted on 02/17/2017 6:04:02 AM PST by PSUGOP
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To: Gaffer

Exactly! Now, tell that to Kathleen “Mother of 0Care” Sebilius.

She was just on FoxBiz saying the repeal of 0Care will mean hundreds of thousands who are now covered, will lose their coverage. (Whaaaa whaa bew hew.)

Wrong, again, Kathleen!! They’re on MEDICAID - which is what we knew would happen, all along.


26 posted on 02/17/2017 6:08:29 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: mewzilla

And states. TN has had TennCare for over a decade, it has nearly bankrupted the state several times and has been downsized that many times to stop the hemorrhaging. Memphis is the largest user, has 1 public hospital. Which is always begging for funds.

The ER is a doc office for illegals. The Elvis Presley Trauma Center services the 3 state counties around us, getting their welfare money is hard. Same goes for the NIC U. They are top draw, while the hospital is a cesspool of germs and diseases you pick up in third world countries.


27 posted on 02/17/2017 6:12:09 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA

You must be referring to The Med. I grew up in the Mid-South and even back then, it was the hospital you wanted to avoid. I can only imagine how things are now, with the level of violent crime and drugs in Memphis.

To be fair, there are a lot of great doctors, nurses and technicians at The Med, and it’s the only Level I Trauma Center for the region. But it’s like walking into a third world country.

I’m guessing the medical drill in Memphis is the same as it’s always been. If you’re one of lucky few who still has private insurance, can actually choose your doctor, and need to see a specialist in Memphis, you get a referral to someone in the Methodist or Baptist health care systems.

After retiring from active duty, I lived in northern Mississippi for a while, before moving away again. Baptist has been very aggressive in expanding into neighboring states and creating a wider network of feeder hospitals and facilities. The local hospital where I resided was owned by Baptist, the care was excellent, and if you needed more specialized treatment, the life flight helo would carry you to one of the system’s larger facilities in Memphis. And the waiting room didn’t look like Kabul General.


28 posted on 02/17/2017 6:33:40 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Jane Long

Exactly. And we now have our “secretary” with that ‘discretion’.....payback is a bitch. They thought they were gonna get 12 more years of Democrat control......WRONG.


29 posted on 02/17/2017 6:44:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: IBD editorial writer

Medicare has been the camel’s nose under the tent since the day it passed in 1965. The original plan was to gradually dial back the eligibility age until you got to de-facto national healthcare.

Had it not passed insurance companies would have demanded it, because older and sicker people are a pure drain on the bottom line. Better to shove them onto the public purse.

It’s why I believe single payer is sadly inevitable. Because an environment where insurers get to cherry-pick only profitable customers is not sustainable, politically or financially.


30 posted on 02/17/2017 7:49:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IBD editorial writer
I read somewhere that the actual percent of people uninsured did not change during Obama’s tenure.
31 posted on 02/17/2017 8:25:02 AM PST by ontap
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To: Gaffer

Wouldn’t they have been on Medicaid or some form of free medical before if they couldnt afford insurance?


32 posted on 02/17/2017 8:30:24 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

Possibly, but likely they would have just been an ‘emergency room’ burden on the county hospital like the illegals. In, treated and out. No bill. That’s why when you have a legitimate emergency, you have to wade through illegals and poors.

Formal Medicaid requires things like asset disclosure and there are limits. Assets above a certain amount are taken as the accruing bills grow. This is typically the time when heirs start to talk their Medicaid parents into bequeathing off their assets to them early so the gubment don’t take them. That usually doesn’t work because by the time they think to do it, the reach back period is in force.


33 posted on 02/17/2017 8:36:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Yesterday’s “day without immigrants” certainly didn’t apply to the emergency room; I guess they took off work to get more free sh!t...


34 posted on 02/17/2017 9:12:01 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: IBD editorial writer
Baby boomers are moving into Medicare in droves and buying relatively cheap gap coverage. And according to the article:

[What has changed is the dramatic growth in government insurance. That went from 16.8% of the under-65 population in 2005 to 26.6% now. . .That translates into 29 million more people getting health benefits from a government program — mainly Medicaid — over the past 11 years. Just since 2010, the number has climbed by nearly 14 million.]

Studies have shown that health outcomes for poor people using emergency rooms are more favorable than patients in Medicaid.

What the article doesn't specifically address is the surge in the veteran population resulting in a surge of new Veterans Administration hospital patients.

For the last few years I had to include in my IRS return a document mailed from VA saying I had access to in their program—even though I haven't used their services for 4 or 5 years. For purposes of identifying health insurance delinquents IRS excludes veterans eligible for VA medical services.

35 posted on 02/17/2017 1:00:11 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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