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Assembly bill would put roadside memorials in the hands of the DOT
The Jersey Journal ^ | February 15, 2017

Posted on 02/15/2017 7:34:33 PM PST by SMGFan

A bill making its way through the state Assembly would establish an official roadside memorial program to help families formally honor loved ones who die in motor vehicle accidents.

The legislation (A-3319), which was co-sponsored by Nicholas Chiaravalloti (D-Hudson), would put the state Department of Transportation in charge of installing and managing memorial signs on roadways following a formal application process by a victim's family. .

Under the proposed system, a victim's next of kin would need to submit to the DOT several pieces of information, including the date and location of the accident, an affidavit that the person to be memorialized was fatally injured in the traffic accident, and any police reports and other legal documentation related to the traffic accident. 

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Permanent memorial signs at the cost of the public , more money to DOT..

Do we need permanent roadside memorials? What about those shot dead on the sidewalk or street? .

I see street corners with photos , balloons , small stuffed animals when an adult or child is killed by an auto, but doubt we needed a permanent sign.

1 posted on 02/15/2017 7:34:33 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

How utterly moronic. I’m not a big fan of roadside memorials but I understand. The state doesn’t need to inject their greasy tentacles in everything.


2 posted on 02/15/2017 7:38:35 PM PST by cyclotic (Republicans Are without excuse. Flood the Resolute Desk with sane legislation.)
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To: SMGFan

If it’s in the right of way it is an encroachment and should be removed without ceremony.


3 posted on 02/15/2017 7:39:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SMGFan

It’s not suprising the ravenous state revenuers would ultimately cash in on roadside memorials (service fees?). I see them as a relatively recent development marking the progressive third world-ization of the U.S. into the image and likeness of just another banana republic.


4 posted on 02/15/2017 8:00:32 PM PST by Calusa (Let our children be dreamers, too! Donald Trump (and Kellyanne Conway))
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To: SMGFan

In most western states the family simply puts up their own cross and the state leaves them alone.


5 posted on 02/15/2017 8:24:38 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Calusa

Where do you see fees?

I remember seeing roadside crosses over sixty years ago.


6 posted on 02/15/2017 8:28:23 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: SMGFan

I’ve never understood the rationale behind these roadside memorials. People who die in other places and by other means don’t rate the same honors? If a person falls off a building do they get a memorial on the sidewalk?


7 posted on 02/15/2017 9:24:24 PM PST by GMMC0987
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To: GMMC0987
I’ve never understood the rationale behind these roadside memorials.

I do. Or rather, I feel that I do. They make sense to me. They put up big electronic signs ( in Illinois ) over the highway, enumerating the "highway deaths" for the year. It's supposed to give you pause for thought in some way, but what if says 10,000 or 100,000 ? It's just numbers. Meaningless. A single crude and sagging cross speaks volumes.

"Here at this spot ... "

8 posted on 02/15/2017 9:45:17 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: GMMC0987

Its big with ....ethnic people.


9 posted on 02/15/2017 9:49:28 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: cyclotic

Instead of doing this they need to take charge and clean them up. They are a nuisance and an eyesore. I see them everywhere now and a lot of them are out of control. Went to a small restaurant down by the beach and when we started to the wall where the entrance to the beach is there was a memorial. About 10 ft long and full of candles, Bud cans, etc.
I say clean them up.


10 posted on 02/15/2017 10:15:24 PM PST by sheana
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To: SMGFan
In Wisconsin we made the right choice in that we banned primitives from creating these circuses on State Highways and they are removed by road crews when found.

Unfortunately the counties are too cowardly to take any action. We have crosses up to 8' high with piles of offerings at the base covered in blinking lights and balloon bouquets swirling in the breeze. This of course all happening at intersections that already had a problem that led to that death and these often appear on private land where the owner feels coerced into complying with the demands made by the family of the dead person.

As we all know, every circus needs clowns and these are no exception. Now we have groups of people showing up and parking near/in the bad intersection causing additional problems due to drivers having to avoid the clowns and their cars.

We have drivers being distracted by the piles of garbage, lights, etc. and running stop signs and causing further accidents.

Just this spring I nearly caused what would have been a serious multi car pile up. It was that first day of the spring where really bright summer like sun pokes through islands of clouds. I was driving along a multi-lane state highway and I was about to go through an intersection where rural roads access the main highway. Just off the highway on both sides was a stand of trees and bushes. Suddenly I swerved and stomped my brakes to avoid hitting a police car that I was about to t-bone or get t-boned by that I had somehow missed as I approached. It turned out that there was no police car at all. The flashing red and blue lights that suddenly appeared in my peripheral was just the sun suddenly peaking out as I passed the clump of trees and reflecting off a large clump of swirling red and blue mylar helium balloons tied to a huge blinking blue cross just off the highway.

Allowing these primitives to continue to create these nuisances endangers the lives of everyone using the roadways. These shrines should all be removed immediately and the builders fined heavily if they can be identified.

11 posted on 02/16/2017 2:08:20 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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"People who die in other places and by other means don’t rate the same honors?

Oh but, they do. Not too long ago I had reason to frequent a large apartment complex full of people with mental health problems and intellectual disabilities. Some drug addicts from a local gang decided they needed to see how fast they could drive down this residential street. According to the police, 95mph was about the limit because at that point the driver hit a recent repair in the road and the car went air born and flew into the trees in front of the complex ejecting the passengers and killing them in a rather gruesome fashion.

The damaged trees were immediately cut down but the stumps werent ground out and the area replanted. The sumps became altars to the primitives shrines. Along with the usual candles and stuffed animals, the gangsters were showing up leaving liquor and joints.

The problem is that these types of buildings are often filled with men who are known to seek drugs and alcohol and staff must watch closely to insure that these people dont harm themselves by adding these on top of the fistfuls of meds prescribed by physicians.

The people who create these shrines dont give a damn about you or anyone else in the community. These selfish bastards only care about their kind so when I would go out to confront them they werent bothered by the idea of potentially killing others as a result of their actions. They didnt care that it was private property or that someone was losing money because a person had to regularly be sent out to clean up their hazardous mess.

Make it illegal and burn them all when they show up. Jail time, fines, and transfer to ICE might be just enough to wake a few of them up and get the remainder of these types out.

12 posted on 02/16/2017 3:02:24 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: gnarledmaw

I’ve be on US 53 from Eau Claire to Superior. One has to stay alert on that stretch. Traffic flow is about 70 Mph with no traffic signals at rural intersections. One also has to run the deer and drunk driver gauntlet at night. I can’t imagine driving that stretch during the winter. I guess if you live there, you get accustomed to it.


13 posted on 02/16/2017 3:02:59 AM PST by EVO X
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Society already has a well established location for honoring and remembering their dearly departed.

It’s called the cemetery.


14 posted on 02/16/2017 3:21:46 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: DesertRhino

Where I live its always Mexicans that do this, so I equate them with the dirty diapers cast onto the sides of roads from mexi-vans.

I vote no. Just no. My culture must be dominant in my country.


15 posted on 02/16/2017 12:58:43 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (:^¤)
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To: TexasGator

A bill making its way through the state Assembly would establish an official roadside memorial program -fee
to help families -fee
formally honor loved ones -fee
would put the state Department of Transportation -fee
in charge of installing -fee
and managing -fee
memorial signs on roadways -fee
following a formal application -fee
Under the proposed system,
a victim’s next of kin would need to submit to the DOT several pieces of information -several fees
including the date and location of the accident -fee and fee
an affidavit - AFFIDAVIT!!! -VERY LARGE FEE
that the person to be memorialized was fatally injured in the traffic accident,
and any police reports -fee,fee,fee
and other legal documentation related to the traffic accident- other fees
All in all a fee rich environment. And,finally, is there any chance those memorials you saw 60 years ago weren’t located south of the border?


16 posted on 02/16/2017 5:30:38 PM PST by Calusa (Let our children be dreamers, too! Donald Trump (and Kellyanne Conway))
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To: Calusa

Someone has too much time on their hands.


17 posted on 02/16/2017 5:42:32 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Someone really loves big government. Each clause in that article is a regulation waiting to be imposed on the people. Each regulation has a dollar value that comes out of the tax payer’s pocket.


18 posted on 02/16/2017 6:18:10 PM PST by Calusa (Let our children be dreamers, too! Donald Trump (and Kellyanne Conway))
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To: Calusa

“Someone really loves big government. Each clause in that article is a regulation waiting to be imposed on the people. Each regulation has a dollar value that comes out of the tax payer’s pocket.”

Which is it? A fee or a tax?

You are trying to call both sides of the coin.


19 posted on 02/16/2017 6:19:48 PM PST by TexasGator
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Which is it? A fee or a tax?

Now you sound like John Roberts.

20 posted on 02/16/2017 6:28:16 PM PST by Calusa (Let our children be dreamers, too! Donald Trump (and Kellyanne Conway))
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