Posted on 02/12/2017 9:36:04 PM PST by Kartographer
From what I've read, repairs were made to the spillway back in 2013. The spillway failure is reported to be in the same general location of the repairs. This leads me to believe the reason for the repairs wasn't adequately addressed back in 2013. It is too early to point figures, but I suspect there will be multiple engineering and funding reasons for the failure.
This will somehow be Trump’s Katrina.
I confess that I am surprised that a dam that big is a dirt banked structure. I am not an engineer,but for a mass of water such as Oroville lake I would think a concrete dam would be required.
That is a very good question. Also, I have yet to catch any of the pressers, but are there any state officials at the pressers, or is just local and county types? How long are the residents who evac gonna have to stay gone? Who's paying for this mess? Will flood insurance cover any damages? Is this a man caused disaster, or an act of God? And WTH is with this evacuation. Were protocols already in place? If so, were they followed? If so, did they suck? Because this evac has been a charlie foxtrot.
I think Trump’s response if the Feds are needed will be stellar.
Then the libs will say he wouldn’t have responded so well to an immigrant or minority community.
At one point there was a state guy from DWR at the mic.
My impression was that among some facts/figures, he was also rolling out a lot of platitudes and CYA.
Granted I was only listening with one ear, but the 'locals' struck me as having a better grip on the reality of the situation/evacuation.
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FWIW, judging from results so far, I’m not sure the bureaucrats know WTH they are doing. But when was the last time you saw state officials refuse to bigfoot a situation like this? Not camera hog at every last press event and make themselves available for stand-ups 24/7? Where are they, hiding under their beds?
He needs to preface it with, "Jerry Moonbeam, stop backing Sanctuary Cities - by official decree, and I might just be able to bail your sorry ass out of this mess you helped create through your negligence of the important things."
No one who waits for and depends on the government to tell them how to prepare, what to do and when to do it. Those folks are now learning about self-reliance the hard way.
A big Cat 966 loader had a bag on the forks that I'm assuming was destined for one of the choppers, and it didn't look much bigger than a cubic yard, if that.
If so, they're gonna need a whole buncha chopper sorties before this day's over . . .
The Global Warming zealots in DC and Sacramento claimed there would never be anymore large snows in the Sierra Nevadas. This is their fault for neglecting the dams.
Pray America woke
Not likely. CA is ruled by coastal elites. Anyone who lives 50 or miles inland is dispensable to them.
This shot from Google Earth shows the dam and concrete and emergency spill ways:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5396152,-121.4858676,2692m/data=!3m1!1e3
Thanks, that explains the problem better than I’ve seen elsewhere. I did not realize the wall of the emergency spillway was 30ft high.
You know your stuff and hopefully there are dozens of folks like you being called in to save the day.
There is a reprieve, so from your remarks, I deduce that the obvious course of action is to repair/shore up as much as they are able to and in the meantime, lower the lake as quickly and as safely as possible in preparation for the ensuing rain which could be as much as 12” in the course of 5-7 days, from what I read.
I also read that the turbines are getting clogged up with debris but I assume they can be cleaned out quickly with that much manpower in place.
Thanks, I see power lines crossing the spillway. They won’t get a helicopter into those areas.
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