WHAT IF?
Posted on 02/08/2017 8:16:14 PM PST by nickcarraway
A bill introduced at the state capitol would require the father of a fetus to sign off on an abortion.
House Bill 1441, authored by Republican Rep. Justin Humphrey, would force women seeking abortions to identify the father to the doctor.
If the person identified disputes he is the father, the person may ask for a paternity test, according to the bill.
The legislation grants exceptions for rape, incest or when the mother's life is in danger.
Exceptions are also made if the father of the fetus is deceased, provided the woman signs a notarized affidavit attesting to the fact.
The Public Health Committee tabled the bill Wednesday morning — the same day Oklahomans went to the capitol from across the state to participate in the 26th Annual Rose Day Pro-Life Rally.
“I believe in the sanctity of human life, and therefore I believe strongly that our state needs to have strong pro-life legislation,” said Karen Alley, who supports the permission legislation. “I believe that life begins at conception, which means to me that you become a mother at conception and therefore you become a father at conception. The fact that our young men and our young fathers don't have a say in that choice is sad to me. It's taking the rights of the father away.”
Others, like James Bible, feel, since a father is half of what makes a baby, he should have half the responsibility.
But, Planned Parenthood Great Plains calls the bill unconstitutional, “extreme” and “irresponsible.”
“Women have the right to a safe abortion,” said Tamya Cox, Regional Director of Public Policy and Organizing. “Women have a right to bodily autonomy. If legislators truly want to end abortion, truly want to decrease the number of abortions and why women are terminating pregnancies, then we believe they should work with us on creating better access to education.”
Instead, Cox said the bill opens the door to harmful consequences — mostly by oversimplifying the circumstances under which a woman may seek an abortion.
“It does not take into consideration that women may be in an abusive relationship and cannot seek permission from a partner because she could be in danger,” she said. “That’s why Oklahoma should trust women to make the choices that are best for them.”
Planned Parenthood argues the statute would be clearly unconstitutional and would cost Oklahoma taxpayers to cover legal expenses.
Public Health Committee Chairman Mike Ritze (R-Broken Arrow) told NewsChannel 4 the bill has a fiscal impact which had not been outlined.
The committee tabled the bill Wednesday, but Ritze said he expects the bill to be back on the agenda at next week's meeting.
Its 50% my child.
When women start making 3D printed babies without male participation, we can talk about dispensing with male permission.
Sorry if it sounds sexist; but conception is a sexual act.
WHAT IF?
They want to force the man to be responsible if she decides to have the baby. If held responsible, the man should have a say.
PING
This is not a good idea. If the father says “Have the abortion,” and the mother doesn’t have one, then he could claim he doesn’t have to help support the child.
they should work with us on creating better access to education.”
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At the end of this lesson the student will know how to spell the word ‘no’ and understand what she has answered when she uses the word as an answer when requested by an adult male to participate in sex with him.
“Oklahoma should trust women to make the choices that are best for them.”
Ayeah, that’s a winning idea, sister. Similar arguments were made back when female suffrage was being pushed. And what was the first major thing you all did with the vote? Tried to make the entire nation go cold-turkey on alcohol, which was medically impossible besides requiring unAmerican confiscation and destruction of private property.
It wasn’t for nothing that Winston Churchill warned that women were well represented by their uncles, brothers and fathers.
BINGO!!!
therefore, the baby is born....daddy dearest does not have a choice if he is the father....
many daddies will not be happy....others will be happy, even though it might mean not having casual bambamthankyouman sex at a whim...
wouldn't life be so much less chaotic is we just were moral?...
When a woman wants the baby but the man doesn’t, the man is forced to support it anyway. But when the man wants the baby and the woman doesn’t, she can just murder it without the man getting any say. Either way, the man has no rights regarding his own child. This is so wrong! A man should be able to have custody of his child if the woman doesn’t want it! Of course another idea would be for people to discuss what they both want Before a life is created....
Another idea, dare I say it, is for men to stop seeking to have pre-marital sex - or at the very least, pre-marital intercourse.
Then once having attracted the right kind of girl through that discipline, a husband should establish himself as the spiritual leader of the family before agreeing to have any children, after which both he and his wife, through their life example and through their parenting, should teach their children to do likewise.
This would be good.
The opposite, however, is that some boyfriends aren’t men and do not want the responsibility of a baby.
It may make women think twice about hopping in the sack with the Bill Clintons of the world.
You don't have to "imagine" it.
Inform yourself about the latest methods of DNA testing (catchword: non-invasive prenatal blood tests), and then get back to us.
Regards,
Don’t have sex with a woman if you ain’t married to her.
Simple as that.
Unmarried men deserve zero right to make any decisions one way or the other, any more than an animal does.
It’s a stupid idea all around.
“I can’t imagine risking the life of a baby to “test” it for dna, if they even could do such a thing...”
The child’s DNA is in the mother’s blood during pregnancy, they can do the test non-invasively.
“Unmarried men deserve zero right to make any decisions one way or the other, any more than an animal does.”
Well, then the same is true for unmarried women, since we have equal protection under the law, eh?
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