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Colorado Senate GOP push anti-union 'right to work' bill [YES!!!]
The Gazette ^ | 2/7/16 | Peter Marcus

Posted on 02/07/2017 12:24:03 PM PST by 198ml

Senate Republicans on Monday advanced a measure that would add Colorado to the list of so-called "right to work" states, prohibiting mandatory union membership.

Despite opposition from throngs of union members and leaders, as well as many in the business world, Republicans on the Senate Business, Labor and Technology Committee pushed the bill along on a party-line vote.

Senate Bill 55, sponsored by Sen. Tim Neville of Littleton, would prohibit an employer from requiring someone to join an organized labor group or pay dues as a condition of employment. It also would create civil and criminal penalties for violations.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: littleton; neville; righttowork; unions
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1 posted on 02/07/2017 12:24:03 PM PST by 198ml
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To: beaversmom; GraceG

Ping!


2 posted on 02/07/2017 12:25:04 PM PST by KC_Lion ("I'm a believer that you don't need a title, and you don't need an office to make a difference"~S.P.)
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To: 198ml

Go Colorado!!


3 posted on 02/07/2017 12:27:21 PM PST by Voluntaryist
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To: 198ml

My state (KY) just went “right to work”. What I find fascinating is that these laws actually seem to INCREASE wages. I don’t know the dynamic that causes that, though.


4 posted on 02/07/2017 12:33:08 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: 198ml

I have a dumb question for everyone. When Right to Work passes, do non-union hires get the same pay and benefits as union members?


5 posted on 02/07/2017 12:33:31 PM PST by old-ager
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To: 198ml

Hickenlooper will veto it.


6 posted on 02/07/2017 12:34:36 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Mr. Douglas

As did mine (MO) yesterday when Gov. Greitens signed the right to work bill into law. Of the eight states that border Missouri, only Illinois is non right to work.


7 posted on 02/07/2017 12:36:08 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Mr. Douglas

> higher wages ... dynamic that causes that

Reminds me of the effect that taxes and regulations have on economic activity. They suppress it. When a union sticks itself in between employees and business, the business is demotivated. Also, businesses would often rather compete with the union than play ball with it. To compete, one has to exceed the other guy’s (union’s) offer.


8 posted on 02/07/2017 12:36:22 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Mr. Douglas

A company does not have to pay more than union wages in a union state.

They are free to pay more to good workers in a right to work state and with real competition may actually do so.


9 posted on 02/07/2017 12:59:01 PM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: old-ager

Yes. All workers who are members of a bargaining unit receive the same wages and benefits whether they belong to the union or not. I will give you an example. For several years I was president of the faculty union at the college I work. There are seventy faculty members who are part of the bargaining unit and covered by the contract-that is full time faculty (adjuncts are not covered by the contract). About 55 faculty are members of the union and pay dues. The union members vote on the contract and elect the union officers.
The bargaining team (five union members) sit down with management and negotiate a contract that includes salaries,
health insurance, pension contributions etc. One the contact is approved by the union members, management, and our board of trustees-it covers everyone union member and
non-union member alike. Federal and state laws make it clear that such a contract covers all employees that are part of that bargaining unit, in this case faculty member.


10 posted on 02/07/2017 1:01:54 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: 198ml

If money collected from dues is used for political agenda the some of the workers will never be represented by their own money and even opposed by it....

Just like how taxes are used...

Unions are just like sub goverment entities.... for socialists.


11 posted on 02/07/2017 1:03:38 PM PST by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: dangerdoc

Your answer is incorrect. A right to work state may still have unions and collective bargaining agreements. By federal law those agreements cover all employees that are part of the bargaining union,whether they pay union dues or non.

A right to work law does not negate collective bargaining agreements or exclude non-dues paying members from the terms of the agreement.


12 posted on 02/07/2017 1:04:57 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: old-ager

Yes.


13 posted on 02/07/2017 1:11:24 PM PST by samantha (keep up the fight..)
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To: 198ml

Republicans control Senate by one. Demwits control House by nine and a Dem Gov. Prognosis dim. But I applaud the courage exhibited by Republicans.


14 posted on 02/07/2017 2:15:32 PM PST by donozark (Lock her up! Kick 'em out! Build the wall! GO TRUMP!!)
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To: 198ml

Why would a non-member of a union be included in any pay, benefits or work conditions negotiated by the union?


15 posted on 02/07/2017 2:31:06 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Maine Mariner

Why would a non-member of a union be included in any pay, benefits or work conditions negotiated by the union?


16 posted on 02/07/2017 2:31:46 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Maine Mariner

> Federal and state laws make it clear that such a contract covers all employees that are part of that bargaining unit

utterly insane, and in no way conservative nor following any principal of self-reliance and individuality.

Requirement to be in a union to work someplace? That should be up to the employer (without coercion of any kind).

Participating in conditions negotiated by the union, without membership in the union? Freeloading.


17 posted on 02/07/2017 2:34:24 PM PST by old-ager
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To: samantha

That’s really stupid.


18 posted on 02/07/2017 2:35:52 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Voluntaryist

YES!


19 posted on 02/07/2017 2:45:19 PM PST by 198ml ("Profit")
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To: Mr. Douglas
My state (KY) just went “right to work”. What I find fascinating is that these laws actually seem to INCREASE wages. I don’t know the dynamic that causes that, though.

If an employee doesn't have to pay union dues, that means that, even if wages stay flat, that's still more take-home pay for the employee.

Also, individual employees have more incentive to increase productivity to whatever level they're comfortable with, without being influenced by union leaders.

Thus, since productivity is probably higher in non-union environment, that means employers can afford to pay a higher wage.

So it's logical to me that "right to work" states could result in higher wages...

20 posted on 02/07/2017 2:53:17 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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