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New Ohio State course extols Muslims’ role in America from its founding to present day
The College Fix ^ | February 3, 2017 | Amanda Tidwell

Posted on 02/04/2017 10:16:13 AM PST by saywhatagain

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To: saywhatagain
Muslims who came to the Americas at the beginning of the 1500's? That's more than a century before Jamestown. I'm perfectly prepared to believe that a few Muslims were aboard Spanish ships and may have been visible in the Spanish colonies. The Spanish had, after all, just completed the reconquista, and there would still have been a considerable number of Muslim subjects in parts of Spain. But a major influence? No.
21 posted on 02/04/2017 10:37:22 AM PST by sphinx
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To: saywhatagain

Are they gonna cover the barbary pirates habit of seizing American ships and enslaving the crews?

How about the muslim slave trade in Africa and how they worked with african chieftains to help provide slaves to the new world?


22 posted on 02/04/2017 10:43:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: abclily

Islam is responsible for the institution of slavery everywhere - it is arguable that had Islam never existed, slavery would never have appeared in western civilization. And the world would be a very different place that today, with most of the world’s lost literature still existent, as well as classical Christianity.

Another seldom mentioned fact about Islam and muslims: blacks are considered slaves by Arab muslims, even if the blacks are muslims.

By slavery I do not mean the form once found in Greece and Rome; there, slavery was more like indentured servitude with slaves having full citizen rights.


23 posted on 02/04/2017 10:44:45 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: stevem
Shortly after our founding, Moslems did inspire one of our great inspirational themes: Millions for defense, not one cent tribute.


Not to mention the first chapters in the history of the United States Marines and a few lines in the Marine Corps Hymn- “...from the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli...”

24 posted on 02/04/2017 10:45:04 AM PST by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: saywhatagain

How to make bombs?


25 posted on 02/04/2017 10:45:05 AM PST by stillfree? (Sooooo Deplorable, but more ireedeemable.)
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To: saywhatagain
As far as I've read, there's very little evidence Muslims fought "with George Washington" in the Continental Army, as this woman claims.

There might have been one soldier who was a freed slave. His name might have been derived from Arabic. Or, might not. Another had a last name of Muhamad and appears to have been Turkish. As for evidence that any of Washington's soldiers were practicing Muslims -- there appears to be none.

26 posted on 02/04/2017 10:50:54 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: alloysteel

Even earlier, the quest to find a new route to India/East Indies started when the Turks took Constantinople in 1453. What a positive contribution!


27 posted on 02/04/2017 10:50:55 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GOPJ; Bikkuri; Jane Long; DollyCali; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; ...
Teacher/brainwasher Sabra Webber: “I start by sharing with the students something about the Muslims who came to The Americas at the beginning of the 1500s and those arriving in colonial America by the early 1600s” . . . Dr. Sabra Webber (professor at Ohio State since 1983)

So, Sabra when do you throw this into the discussion?

Ohio State resident terrorist, Abdul Raza, a refugee from Somalia (one of the countries being denied entry by Trump, thank God) last fall plowed a car into a crowd of Ohio State students before stabbing several Ohio State pedestrians with a butcher knife.

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It is also possible that Dr. Sabra Webber (professor at Ohio State since 1983, and Ohio State University committed federal offenses including but not limited to:

<><> Title 18 U.S.C. §1341, Mail Fraud, 18 U.S.C.§1001, Presenting a False Document to an Agent of the US Government (involves several felonies and could include forgery);

<><> 18 U.S.C.§1027 False statements and concealment of facts in relation to documents required by the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 and other possible offenses including civil and/or criminal RICO violations.

<><> 18 U.S.C. §§1961-68 (RICO Act)18 U.S.C. §1001 (making false Statements to Agents of the US Government),

<><> 18 U.S.C. §241(Conspiracies Against Civil Rights).

<><> Possibly full investigations centering on RICO conspiracies under 18 U.S.C. §1962(c) could be warranted because (1) the persons (2) were employed by or associated with an enterprise (3) that engaged in or affected interstate commerce and that (4) the persons operated or managed the enterprise (5) through a "pattern" (6) of racketeering activity, and (7) the taxpayers were injured by reason of the "pattern" of racketeering activity.

<><> Alleged Offenses could include Violation of Title 18 U.S.C. §241 – Conspiracy Against Constitutional Rights – which prohibits in relevant part, “two or more persons (from conspiring) to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same . . .” See, 18 U.S.C. §241.

Taxpayers demand investigation by the following agencies commence at once:

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<><> IRS-Fraud Unit

<><> Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General,

<><> Department of Commerce’s Office of Inspector General.

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28 posted on 02/04/2017 10:52:14 AM PST by Liz
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To: saywhatagain

If they repeat the lie often enough it will become the truth; in 50 years they’ll be teaching that George Washington was a black man who liberated poor whites from indentured servitude...


29 posted on 02/04/2017 10:52:42 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: saywhatagain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks - attacks since 1979

From 1785 to 1794, the Dey of Algiers captured eleven American ships and held one hundred and nineteen of their survivors for ransom. President John Adams eventually paid up, which prompted Tunis and Tripoli to demand and be promised their own ransoms. Total tribute paid by the time President Thomas Jefferson took office: $2,000,000, or one fifth of the annual federal revenue. The rest is history . . . “to the shores of Tripoli.”

For two centuries, the thugs were mostly quiet - lacking the resources to do much damage. Today, they’re back on the global stage and unchanged morally from the Barbary Pirates or from the conquerors of their early history. They still rape, murder, steal, and enslave as much as they can get away with whenever they have the resources to use force.


30 posted on 02/04/2017 10:54:12 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: saywhatagain

Woody Hayes would have never allowed this.

He taught History in addition to coaching the football team, and was a staunch Republican.


31 posted on 02/04/2017 10:54:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: saywhatagain

So, it is a creative writing class.


32 posted on 02/04/2017 11:00:44 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: saywhatagain

One of the historical issues surrounding our country that I have been recently intrigued with, and which is being studied and written about more, is how many of the slaves that were brought into America were muslim?

Some of the recent studies imply that a large number of the slaves in America were muslim, as a result of the normal muslim conquests in the rest of the world.

For instance,

“How can you determine if your ancestors were Muslims? Many Americans may never be able to prove this fact. One way to determine an ancestor’s religion is by studying his or her given names. Many slaves were forced to accept Christian names; however, some kept their Muslim names. Austin discusses men living in the Antebellum South named Abd ar-Rahman, Bilali Mohammed, Salih Bilali, Umar ibn Said, and Yarrow Mamout, who clearly maintained Islamic names. One of these men, Abd ar-Rahman, after gaining his freedom, went as far as to meet President John Quincy Adams on his trek back to his native Africa...”

https://familysearch.org/blog/en/african-american-ancestors-muslims/

[ Originally published in GenWeekly, New Providence, NJ, USA: Genealogy Today LLC, 2004. http://www.genealogytoday.com/articles/reader.mv?ID=350 ]


33 posted on 02/04/2017 11:01:51 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: saywhatagain

Muslim influence in America, since our Founding?

Positive or detrimental?

Still, should be as quick of a class as reading about Jewish sports legends...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoACIIz33II


34 posted on 02/04/2017 11:03:41 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: saywhatagain

It’s social climbing gone stupid

It’s just like any time minorities claim “the country was built on them”

Either they were excluded didn’t have the skill or weren’t present


35 posted on 02/04/2017 11:03:57 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: saywhatagain

Well, they work very well in the demolition industry.


36 posted on 02/04/2017 11:04:17 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“That Ottoman Empire was really only about furniture “

And stool samples.


37 posted on 02/04/2017 11:05:54 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: saywhatagain

Follow the money. Islamic countries treat women like garbage, so why does the party that always says it’s the biggest protector of women’s rights in our country turn a blind eye to a religion that badly mistreats its female populations? If this were the Catholic Church or a Protestant denomination the left would be boycotting them from dawn till dusk 24/7, 365! All that Saudi money and oil money from other Arab states is the reason the Dems are such hypocrites when it comes to the religion of “peace”. Talk to any rabid leftist woman in this country and mention to them that in many Arab nations they have no rights at all, and are treated like crap. They’ll change the subject and talk about how Trump is a misogynist and how their access to abortions is being taken away. Such loons.


38 posted on 02/04/2017 11:16:57 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: i_robot73

Or Italian war heroes.


39 posted on 02/04/2017 11:18:37 AM PST by FirstFlaBn
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To: saywhatagain

Dr. Webber has been a professor at Ohio State since 1983, according to her faculty bio, which notes she received her B.A. in English Literature from Occidental College, her M.A. in Folklore from UC Berkeley and Ph.D. in Anthropology and Folklore from the University of Texas.


40 posted on 02/04/2017 11:23:38 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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