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Prager: Why My Stepsons’ Father Killed Himself
Truthrevolt.org ^ | 1-31-2017 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 01/31/2017 12:46:34 PM PST by servo1969

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To: servo1969

I know people in Arizona who experience chronic pain. They go to pain management doctors who prescribe oxycodone. They are not allowed to receive pain relievers from any other physician and they are required to be tested to make sure THEY are using it and not just distributing it to others.

This seems to be a reasonable way to help people with their pain while preventing abuse.


41 posted on 01/31/2017 1:24:14 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Red Badger

A person with real pain will not become addicted.......................

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I don’t know if that’s true, but I’ve read it many times.


42 posted on 01/31/2017 1:25:10 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Liz
He lived and died a painful death b/c scar tissue had formed on a procedure....and back then there was nothing to help him.

Laudanum (Tincture of Opium) has been around since the 16th century.
43 posted on 01/31/2017 1:25:42 PM PST by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: TakebackGOP

So when it’s raining you can’t check the roof -
but when it’s dry, the roof don’t need checking!


44 posted on 01/31/2017 1:26:21 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: servo1969
Acetaminophen / Oxycodone ?

They put the acetaminophen in there to destroy your liver and kill you if you take too much of the Oxy.

45 posted on 01/31/2017 1:27:49 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I took it temporarily as prescribed. It helped me sleep, but it didn’t seem to do much else, and of course I didn’t become addicted.


46 posted on 01/31/2017 1:28:21 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: akalinin

Read the book.


47 posted on 01/31/2017 1:29:52 PM PST by Liz
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To: Oldexpat
Couldn't a doctor perform a simple in office drug test to determine if the patient is really using his script AND adhering to the prescribed dosage? I know drug tests sound invasive but for extreme cases it might be warranted.

BTW - I think there are already databases in lots of states for prescriptions.
48 posted on 01/31/2017 1:31:57 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: akalinin

Yep. There would have been mostly (entirely) illegal and dangerous ways to ease the pain. Ways that might have led to a debilitating addiction. And certainly a poor pathetic quality of life.

It sounds like the poor guy did what he could though.


49 posted on 01/31/2017 1:34:45 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (It's Donald Trump's America and we're just living in it.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Sadly true. My mom was end stage lung cancer and had to actually go to the oncologists office 2x monthly so she could get her pain meds. He was not allowed to just continue giving them unless she came in. And of course, he was always overbooked and running late and would have cancer patients sitting for 2-3 hours in his waiting room, in pain, exhausted- it was horrible to see.

I finally caused quite a scene about the wait time and was banned from his office....


50 posted on 01/31/2017 1:36:08 PM PST by luckodeirish (The Land of the Free-Because of the Brave!!!!!!!)
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To: Claud

Dennis Prager is Jewish, his stepson’s father might have been too.


51 posted on 01/31/2017 1:39:38 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ckilmer

Or cut down the trees that feed the gutters. That is what I did, though some leaves still manage to get in there. Also, there are attachments to leaf blowers that can blow the leaves out while you are walking on the ground.


52 posted on 01/31/2017 1:39:58 PM PST by HerrBlucher (For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: ckilmer

They’re there and they still get clogged.


53 posted on 01/31/2017 1:41:48 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Oxy was a blessing for me. I have suffered with arthritis since my late thirties. I have used almost every opioid available over the past ten years. Over time, they will lose their effectiveness and I would have to switch to another formulation. Oxy was the best at minimizing my pain. Unfortunately, I lost my job last March and with it, my insurance. I’m now using Indian healthcare, and the strongest paid med the will prescribe is Tramodol. It’s little more than aspirin.

I never took any med more than was prescribed. I had been taking 30 mg of morphine 3 times a day, and when that quit working for me, I just weened myself off it. Some of us can take these meds without becoming addicted.


54 posted on 01/31/2017 1:43:19 PM PST by acad1228
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To: Paved Paradise

The problem is the difficulty getting the legal prescriptions drives people to go to the heroine market. Money that goes to the drug cartel is a story of corruption and gang violence. By allowing patients to go through the legal process and deliver a medical solution prevents the latter lawlessness. I say, let a patient get all the pain relief that can medically be achieved. It surly prevents even worse collateral damage.


55 posted on 01/31/2017 1:46:51 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Thank you! Ever roll on the bathroom floor for hours in agony with either a kidney stone or a gall stone? I have and oxytocin barley touches it, but does help. Now absolutely everyone if got their hair on fire about this and real people are going to suffer needlessly because everyone’s suddenly got the chic cause dejour.


56 posted on 01/31/2017 1:49:25 PM PST by Obadiah (Welcome to the revolution!)
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To: tired&retired

Remarkable experience. Thank you.

The problem with unrelenting pain is first, the pain, and secondly the way it distracts one from life. To focus on breathing, on music, reading, food, becomes seemingly impossible.

My heart ..and prayers for Bruce, I cannot condemn this man. May his soul be at rest in God’s love..


57 posted on 01/31/2017 1:51:13 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: servo1969

Being a soft tissue back injury survivor, it takes years. Years. I think I was in five years before I finally started being able to cope with the pain and learning how to live my life around the pain.

Two years is in that five year window, and you suffer, mightily. The pain meds either make you a zombie, or are not providing relief, so your brain is responding to pain, all day long.


58 posted on 01/31/2017 1:52:59 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: servo1969

I thank God every day that my husband’s doctors believe he needs pain meds and prescribes them. He is addicted to wanting to live without chronic pain, not the meds.


59 posted on 01/31/2017 1:57:34 PM PST by ozaukeemom (I am deplorable and proud of it.)
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To: servo1969

I am so sorry to Dennis and his wife for having had to endure psychically the pain their kids’ dad, her ex, was suffering from. I am so sorry the kids lost their dad and his loved ones lost him.

Our medical system is a travesty. It really is. That kind of pain should be palliated. I’m sorry this happened. What a shame.


60 posted on 01/31/2017 1:58:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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