That would actually work pretty well for me! In particular, the Navy and Marine presence in San Diego would remain in the US. Plus, San Diego is a nice area! heh
It's really too bad it won't happen, as if it did the Hollywood idiocracy wouldn't have anything to whine about anymore...
Add Sacramento and Davis to the green mix
both are lost ..
Now that looks good
A big American version of Gaza strip. Nice.
Calexit will serve the interests of Aztlan and its associate crazies.
Step one, leave the U. S. Step 2, join Mexico. Step 3 New Mexico and Arizona. Aztlan achieved.
That’s a good map of the hot zone. Totally lost. The remainder of the state has its leftists, but nowhere so overwhelmingly dominant. The ones around Sacramento would probably flee if the State government jobs dried out.
Now that’s California dreaming. Love it!
Upstate NY wants to secede.
NOT from the Union.
Just from Downstate.
The other advantage there is that it ensures that the border with Mexico is in the Real American State of California instead of the Marxist State of California — which means that the wall and all border crossings will be in America.
We’d be better off without California. Move the naval base to Texas. Pity the true Americans who are stuck in that cesspool.
Hollywood is really pissed off because Trump is going to cut off their taxpayer funded subsidies. It is a quid pro quo thing.
Hollywood obviously will be its Capitol.
Normal people in California deserve a break from the crazies. You’ll never see anything like it elsewhere—a population that just loves to vote itself higher taxes at every opportunity.
San Andreas gets a vote in this, you know.
Actually it would be better to get so called red counties to form their own state...probably could get some areas in central and southern coast.
I think some of the leftist think (stink?)..is due to the facts that most of them live in citied where the mayor is the boss and they think potus is same way..not even understanding our federal republic..so if they dont like the mayor they just vote him out or pout..just separate them out..county by county..and let them supply their own water..power and food and justice..and ecologically sound commerce and pick up the pieces later..
Actually it would be better to get so called red counties to form their own state...probably could get some areas in central and southern coast.
I think some of the leftist think (stink?)..is due to the facts that most of them live in citied where the mayor is the boss and they think potus is same way..not even understanding our federal republic..so if they dont like the mayor they just vote him out or pout..just separate them out..county by county..and let them supply their own water..power and food and justice..and ecologically sound commerce and pick up the pieces later..
We don’t need a Venezuela on our Western border.
I will take the proposed state of Jefferson boundaries any day. I don’t want Sacramento any where near the Jefferson State.
Internal differences aren’t enough of a reason to split a state. Internal differences combined with huge size is. With 40 million people, California is almost twice the population as the next largest state (Texas, with 26 million). As a single entity, California is a very large unitary government (our state governments are hardly confederations of county governments, rather our counties and municipalities are creatures of our state governments).
Very large states should be able to split. It is not necessary to define what is meant by “very large” beforehand. But, clearly, each of the resulting states would still have to be at least average size (6.4 million), perhaps at least 1.5 times average size (9.5 million).
And, we don’t want anything like gerrymandering. The split lines have to make sense.
My idea for splitting California is four states: Los Angeles County, San Francisco (the bay area), Northern California (capital Sacramento) and Southern California (capital San Diego). This would make two city-states (very liberal), and two moderate rural-urban mix states.
The only other places I see this working are: Chicago (Cook County plus surrounding metro counties) and New York City (the five counties thereof). This would make two more city-states and two more moderate rural-urban mix states.
Germany is a federal republic and it has a couple city-states (Berlin and Hamburg).
Speaking of city-states, Washington, D.C., is too small to be a free standing city states. The populated part of the district should be joined to Maryland for voting in federal elections (Senator and Congressman as well as President), with no separate 3 electoral votes for the remaining depopulated district.
Pretty close to what I was thinking.
I see no reason to give them the offshore islands, though.
Excellent idea! And the Nation of California (in green on the map) becomes a U.S. Protectorate.